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re: Is Champ Bailey this years 2009 Sharper?

Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:33 pm to
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To say that we are set at that CB spot is insane.

Agree.
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And yea, we leave people on islands all the time, so it does matter.

I doubt this will be the case for Bailey. At least most of the time.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted by BaBaDoo
Member since Aug 2011
218 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:34 pm to
Roddy had an injury last year, but prior to that had 1150 yards 6 consecutive seasons. He's younger than champ, and doesn't have to run backwards. Mike Evans is a freak of nature. Boldin is still a top 10 route runner. Alshon Jeffery would frick Bailey sideways. Terrance Williams (16.7 YPC) is a burner in pads.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:44 pm to
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Still a GLARING hole.
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Posted by BaBaDoo
Member since Aug 2011
218 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64051 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:49 pm to
Sleep well troll...sleep well.
Posted by BaBaDoo
Member since Aug 2011
218 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:52 pm to


Good talking football with you. Your views were quite insightful.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64051 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:57 pm to
Sorry but "i never played NFL" football guys like me cut to the chase a little quick.

As in...[quote]Champ is old.

Corey White is hot garbage.

Best situation would be kenny moving down and covering the slot and let bush play safety on passing downs.

1. No sh!t.
2. Your 100% football wrong here.
3. We are stacked at CB not weak.

Football
Posted by BaBaDoo
Member since Aug 2011
218 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:01 pm to
Did you watch Corey White? I've seen enough to validate my opinion.

And Champ Bailey wasn't worth a shite last year.

STACKED?

Most people will disagree with you.
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11270 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:06 pm to
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please don't let him be a psychopath rapist.


Except on gameday.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:18 pm to
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Roddy(X2), Terrance Williams, Mike Evans(X2), Golden Tate, Randall Cobb, Boldin, Steve Smith, Alshon Jeffrey. No


Roddy x2 - Push. White has lost a step as well and was never a speed guy to begin with.

Terrance Williams - Yes. Romos 3rd target. And Romo stares down Dez and Witten majority of the time anyways

Mike Evans x2 - Rookie WR that hasnt played a snap in the NFL. And people are worried about his route running ability at this level.... come on. Maybe in 2 seasons, but not as a rookie

Golden Tate - Hes not that good to begin with. Yes.

Randall Cobb - No. Cobb is 1 of the hardest guys to matchup with in the NFL though. Quick as hell and can fly.

Boldin - Yes. Never was fast to begin with. And has lost a step as well.

Steve Smith - Yes. If he was in his prime vs Champ today I would say no. But hes not. he lost as step as well.

Alshon Jeffery - No. Big, strong, fast, with some crazy strong hands.

The only 2 that you can flat out say NO on are Cobb and Jeffery. The rest are either a push or yes.

Plus, you are thinking of just the 1v1 matchup. Gotta look at the entire picture. First off, we dont even know if Bailey will be our CB2 or CB3 at the moment, and it most likely will change between PRob / Bailey depending on our opponent and matchups. Not to mention the fact that KV can man up WRs as well.

And then you have to take into account the rest of our D. Our front 7 should be improved this year, especially Hicks. And getting Victor Butler back helps a lot as well. Junior and Cam Jordan will be just as good, most likely better as well. We were 4th in the league in sacks last year with 49 sacks, and we should top that number this year. We will be getting after the QB.

And if we dont get to the QB, we have Keenan Lewis on the opponents WR1 and arguably the best Safety group in the NFL with Byrd, KV, and Bush. They will be giving help over the top and basically will be taking away the middle of the field. KV was outstanding as a rookie and was extremely impressive in all phases of the game. Kid is a baller. Bush was a pleasant surprise last season for us, and keeping him was huge considering that Ryan loves to use 3 safeties on the field. And this brings me to Byrd. Hes is 1 of the best defensive playmakers in the entire NFL and a top 2 safety in the league, (Weddle and Byrd). PERIOD. Signing him was huge.

No... Im not worried about Bailey as our CB2 or CB3. At all.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:45 pm to
Cover for how long. The key to pass coverage is a good pass rush. If they have 4 to 5 seconds no one can cover anyone no matter who they are. (Unless you hold the hell out of them like Seattle.)
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6316 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:45 pm to
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Is Champ Bailey this years 2009 Sharper?

I certainly hope not...


This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 10:47 pm
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6564 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 11:03 pm to
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Mike Evans


Not too worried about this guy. Sure, he's good but if LSU's freshman CB can't get him out of his game I think we'll be alright.
Posted by FleuryNipples
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:15 am to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 4:30 am to
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Cover for how long. The key to pass coverage is a good pass rush. If they have 4 to 5 seconds no one can cover anyone no matter who they are. (Unless you hold the hell out of them like Seattle.)



I'm not worried about our pass rush at all. We are capable of getting coverage sacks too, but our dline is nasty and should only improve.

Now we get to add Victor Butler to that attack along with a more experience Cam and Hicks.

We didn't blitz very much last year. We relied on our 4 man pass rush to generate pressure.

We finished 8th in Pass Rushing Productivity without blitzing at 27.9%. We struggled to get to the QB when blitzing though, finishing 17th (see Malcolm Jenkins vs Carolina )
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 4:34 am
Posted by BaBaDoo
Member since Aug 2011
218 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 3:28 pm to
BUMP

But but but but but he is this year's 2009 sharper
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/30/14 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 1:35 pm to


I was thinking about this thread last night when I heard he got cut. LOTS of crow to be eaten in here.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 3:53 pm to
Chump Bailey
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24576 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 8:33 pm to
He came for a superbowl and all he got was a bowl of gumbo
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