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re: Would you have supported a smaller healthcare reform act, specifically one that

Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:18 pm to
Rex just wants to ignore the freeman health plan.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71994 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:25 pm to
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merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
No, considering that that isn't insurance.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 3:45 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Yes, considering that that isn't insurance.


Shhhhhh....

Posted by fleaux
section 0
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Welcome to the new America, where your health is a right rather than a privilege.


Rights are guaranteed, so how is the government going to guarantee someone's health??
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:35 pm to
Through magical legislation and Unicorn Farts.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:36 pm to
Preexisting conditions occur the majority of the time because of the lack of personal responsibility. I have paid for my own health insurance for 20 years to have only start needing it in the past 2 years.

I didn't wait till I was already diagnosed with an illness to prepare for how it will be paid for.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:37 pm to
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Welcome to the new America, where your health is a right rather than a privilege.
is it a right that I pay for someone that makes poor behavioral choices that lead to exaggerated health care cost? If a junkie continually overdosies, why should I have to pay for it? If a jaywalker keeps getting hit by vehicles , why should I have to cover the cost of that pre-existing condition?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Sadly, before Obamacare the health of Americans was treated with less respect and dignity than that in other developed countries


Respect and dignity?
Seriously where do you get this shite?


Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19265 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:50 pm to
Sure, as long as their wasn't a cap on premium cost for a person with a pre-existing condition.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:58 pm to
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Rex just wants to ignore the freeman health plan.

I do not like to dismiss things out of hand. I haven't had time to consider it and must now go to the grocery store. My wife is not too thrilled with my participation here right now.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:59 pm to
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I do not like to dismiss things out of hand. I haven't had time to consider it and must now go to the grocery store. My wife is not too thrilled with my participation here right now.



Is Harris Teeter accepting SNAP now?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 4:00 pm to
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Rights are guaranteed, so how is the government going to guarantee someone's health??

The same way Thomas Jefferson guaranteed everybody's life.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 4:01 pm to
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The same way Thomas Jefferson guaranteed everybody's life.





WUT?
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 4:08 pm to
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quote: Rights are guaranteed, so how is the government going to guarantee someone's health?? The same way Thomas Jefferson guaranteed everybody's life.


fricking retarded
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16153 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 4:17 pm to
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 I've always been able to afford health insurance. 



Yet you chose not to pay it. (You've admitted that here before).

Do you not see your own hypocrisy? You chose not to pay for something that you admit you could've afforded, yet you praise a law that forces people to pay for something, even with increasing costs. You are touting a law that YOU WERE GUILTY OF BREAKING A SHORT TIME AGO!! But now it's convenient for you.

Your selfishness is baffling.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111495 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:18 pm to
Charging people for known risks is part of ...well.. Insurance.


If someone waits until they're sick to get insurance, then you have ... well... Obamacare.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69047 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:26 pm to
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No. Apparently you don't know how insurance works, Which is incredible for a former "CFO". Shame on you


so let me just get this right.

The right hates Obamacare, we have covered that.

But the right also thinks it's A-OK for insurance companies to let people DIE, just because they cannot make enough money from insuring them??
Am I understanding that correctly?


Private business has no place in Healthcare. I know few here agree with that, but it's why we are so backwards in healthcare of our citizens.

Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21314 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:30 pm to
I prefer to have what I have now...a great plan that is immune from all of this ACA stupidity.

I'd say that it speaks volumes for a plan when no one that proposed / voted on it uses it while more and more people are being exempted from it since it was implemented.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69234 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:31 pm to
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But the right also thinks it's A-OK for insurance companies to let people DIE, just because they cannot make enough money from insuring them??
What? How does lacking insurance "kill" someone? That's like saying I killed a homeless man I walked by because I didn't offer him shelter.

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Private business has no place in Healthcare. I know few here agree with that, but it's why we are so backwards in healthcare of our citizens.
Why would the state be better than a business at administering healthcare? What institution in America is run effectively by the state?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:32 pm to
Apparently you don't know how insurance works either.
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