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re: looking to buy my first gun
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:57 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:57 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I disagree on the .22. If the guy wants his money worth, then he needs to get a caliber he can use for both target shooting and jic scenarios. Besides, lots of .22 handguns I see are finicky with ammo, jam a lot, and it can be hard to find ammo.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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A big arse handgun
.357 magnum ftmfw
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:00 pm to SabiDojo
Maybe the guy doesn't give a damn about self defense
Most people don't.
Most people don't.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:01 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Well, probably not, but I'm willing to bet he'll get hooked and want a bigger caliber.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:03 pm to TU Rob
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And we need to narrow down handguns even more. Is this something you want to mainly target shoot with and keep in the house for protection? Would you ever get a permit and carry? Do you prefer revovlers or semi-autos?
Mainly for target shooting and protection.
I plan on getting a permit, but I doubt I'd actually carry it very often.
No preference on revolvers vs semi-auto
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:04 pm to kingbob
Gotta decide what type of gun you want first. For pistols, I really like my Walther PPQ-M2, and will either get a Sig P226 or M&P Shield next(small gun)
Shotguns, go with an 870 Tactical or a Benelli Nova Tactical. Both are reasonably priced, and are designed for home defense.
Shotguns, go with an 870 Tactical or a Benelli Nova Tactical. Both are reasonably priced, and are designed for home defense.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:21 pm to kingbob
Pistol - CZ P01
Rifle - FN SCAR 17
Rifle - FN SCAR 17
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:34 pm to NOFOX
Tactical overload
Abandon thread
Abandon thread
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:45 pm to Shexter
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If you look at a gun and it's less than $400 - $500, it's a POS.
Fixed it for you.
To the OP:
FIRST, get some training, unless you and your wife are experienced. I'm assuming from your question y'all aren't. This training should include marksmanship PLUS legal issues (when are you allowed//not allowed to use deadly force).
THEN, Get a Glock (Model 17 or 19), HK, or Smith & Wesson (M&P model) in 9mm. Extremely reliable, good for self-defense, limited recoil, outstanding customer service and very simple to operate (just point and shoot).
Do not get anything made by Taurus, Kel-Tec, Diamondback, Rossi, Charter, etc. You might buy one of these and get a "good one." Or it may be of very poor quality. Just because a friend has a "good one" doesn't mean you'll get a reliable one. The QA/QC record for the "cheap" guns is very spotty.
It is almost unheard of for a Glock, HK or M&P to be defective "right out of the box." It can happen (They have sold hundreds of thousands of guns, and no company is perfect), but it's rare.
Kahrs are very reliable but are expensive for what they are, and require several hundred rounds through then for "break-in." And Kahr offers a limited warranty of only 5 years (valid only for the original owner.)
The Glocks, M&P's and HK's are good-to-go right out of the box. They need no break-in. The Glocks and M&P's have unconditional warranties -- not sure about HK.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:51 pm to dawg23
You carry a gun less than $500
Eta: and COUNTLESS used smiths/glocks/rugers etc can be had under $500. Your blanket statement is inaccurate.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:02 pm to dawg23
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If you look at a gun and it's less than $400 - $500, it's a POS. Fixed it for you.
That's the price range I really wanted to put, but didn't want to hear a lot of crying.
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Do not get anything made by Taurus, Kel-Tec, Diamondback, Rossi, Charter, etc.
add Bersa, Jiminez, Hi-Point, and the S&W "SD" pistols.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:31 pm to Shexter
S&W SD9 VE is a nice inexpensive hand gun. around $319-$330. Gets good reviews for a budget pistol.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:34 pm to kingbob
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I'm leaning towards hand-gun, but I'm open to suggestions on shotguns and rifles. I'm definitely looking to save money since I'm just a few months out of school.
Go to a range that rents guns and shoot a bunch, doesn't sound like you know what you want or what caliber you want..
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:40 pm to kingbob
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I'm right handed and left eye dominant.
Are you sure about that?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:44 pm to dawg23
There's lots of excellent guns for less than $500. You're statement is pretty ignorant.
If I was the OP I would decide exactly what I wanted a gun for before asking for advice or looking at guns. Then I would decide on a budget, a maximum you wanted to spend. Then narrow it down to a few models. Then go try them and get what you liked best. Stick to companies with solid reputations. Don't be afraid of a used gun, you can get a lot more bang for a lot less buck
I'm also right handed and left eye dominant, it's a pain in the arse but I've adjusted to shooting with my right eye.
If I was the OP I would decide exactly what I wanted a gun for before asking for advice or looking at guns. Then I would decide on a budget, a maximum you wanted to spend. Then narrow it down to a few models. Then go try them and get what you liked best. Stick to companies with solid reputations. Don't be afraid of a used gun, you can get a lot more bang for a lot less buck
I'm also right handed and left eye dominant, it's a pain in the arse but I've adjusted to shooting with my right eye.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:57 pm to kingbob
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kingbob
Thank you for posting this here on the OB rather than the OT. You will get more realistic responses, although what you ultimately decide should be up to YOU. Someone may say "you should buy this" or "you HAVE to buy that" but the decision is ultimately yours.
You seem to be having some confusion as to what role this handgun will be filling. That can be a bit overwhelming at first and is something every first-time buyer struggles with. Watch my video here to get some insight on WHAT the gun will be used for. You seem to be leaning towards home defense and recreation so a full sized pistol will probably be your category.
First Time Firearm Buyers
I also highly agree with Dawg that you should seek some sort of training, no matter how basic. Growing up as a hunter gives you the fortune of having safety in mind. But with this in mind, handgun safety is also very different. It's easier to keep the muzzle of a rifle or shotgun away from people's faces, whereas a handgun can sweep multiple people without you knowing it. You should always stick to the 4 rules of handgun safety religiously:
1. Every gun is loaded.
2. Keep your gun pointed in a safe direction (muzzle discipline).
3. Keep your finger off the trigger.
4. Know your target and what is beyond it.
I am with Dawg in that sticking with a reputable brand will be a good choice. But then again, there are many respectable manufacturers out there so your choices will be numerous.
I strongly suggest you go to a store and hold as many full sized handguns as you can. I would suggest staying with 9mm as it is very easy to handle and holds a lot of ammo. Plus, it will be the cheapest to shoot at the range. In the most basic terms, 9mm, 40, and 45 all do pretty much the same thing to a human target. If someone uses "45" and "stopping power" in the same sentence, use caution when taking this person's advice.
I have some gun reviews on my channel that you can peruse to see if you like. But then again, the options are numerous. Choose wisely.
EDIT: I forgot to comment about your cross-dominance (left eye, right hand). This is very easy to overcome with all handguns. It is a bit trickier for shotguns and rifles but any handgun can be used with your left eye.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:39 pm to kingbob
quote:With hand-guns, paying a lot doesn't necessarily mean better but I wouldn't buy the "cheapest" either. Though my knowledge of handguns is much more limited compared to many who post here, I wouldn't recommend a Hi Point either. Spend enough to have a quality pistol- you won't regret it in years from now.
I'm leaning towards hand-gun, but I'm open to suggestions on shotguns and rifles. I'm definitely looking to save money since I'm just a few months out of school.
Also, you may want to start with one from a pawn shop. If you don't get in a hurry you can find some good values on quality brands that you will be able to get your money back on later, should you want to "trade up".
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