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re: Rand Paul Speaks to National Urban League

Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:46 am to
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:46 am to
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Top Obama Aide: Rand Paul Is ‘Most Intriguing’ Republican

Zeke J Miller
11:35 AM ET

"He's the only Republican I think who has articulated a message that is potentially appealing to younger Americans"

A senior aide to President Barack Obama suggested Friday that Sen. Rand Paul would be the greatest threat to Democrats’ hopes to retain the White House in 2016.

Speaking to reporters, counselor to the president Dan Pfeiffer said the Kentucky Republican is “one of the most intriguing candidates” in the field because of his appeal to younger voters of both parties.

“He’s the only Republican I think who has articulated a message that is potentially appealing to younger Americans,” Pfeiffer said at a breakfast organized by the Christian Science Monitor. “Every other Republican running is basically just Romney-lite when it comes to younger Americans.” Rand has made reaching out to non-traditional voters a signature component of his political agenda, most recently delivering a speech Friday to the National Urban League.

As for the senator’s presidential hopes, Pfeiffer questioned whether Paul has the organization to be a real threat and acknowledged that he would have to first make it through a tough primary where some of his positions are problematic to voters. But, he added, “there’s a germ of something there.”


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Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:49 am to
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National Urban League


Is Marc Morial still head of that?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:50 am to
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Yet you wonder why minorities won't vote republican.




90-95% solid vote for Dems since...pretty much since Nixon.

Plenty of GOPers have bowed to the UL and NAACP because if they didn't, they'd be branded as racists (and are branded as such immediately before and after their speeches). It has been legitimately viewed as a complete waste of fricking time.

To his credit, Rand is busting his arse to try and change that and the sad part is, people are saying if he could get 20% of the black vote to the GOP it would be a smashing success.

20 fricking percent.

So...either they have not been listening since the early 70s (which is what the image portrays), they listened and just don't fricking get it, or they listened, understood, and still voted for their slaveowners because they were told to.

Of those options, not listening is the most benign
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:52 am to
That's the folks that bother to vote (not me). Btw, it's been lopsided since FDR.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:55 am to
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Btw, it's been lopsided since FDR.


It flipped with FDR; however, it did not become a 90%+ voting bloc until Nixon.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:56 am to
Nah, it just became 85%
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98276 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Nah, it just became 85%


Actually, Nixon got 32% of the black vote in 1960 when he ran against Kennedy.

However, the Dems claimed the mantle of civil rights in the 1960s with the blood of a dead president (ignoring that Republicans were the only reason the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts passed), and by 1968, Nixon only got 18%
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:00 pm to

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Yet you wonder why minorities won't vote republican.


The pic looks white to me.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:01 pm to
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"He's the only Republican I think who has articulated a message that is potentially appealing to younger Americans"


Translation: "Oh shite..."
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18301 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:01 pm to
yeah, jfk had his dem buds release MLK Jr..
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:06 pm to
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The GOP must adapt or die
I say this all the time. They don't even have to have major policy shifts. They have to communicate about 10000000000X better
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:10 pm to
Just dropping the emotional social shite would help ten fold. Stick to a true conservative fiscal message, states rights, personal liberties, small gov. Leave the abortion, woman's rights bullshite behind.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40051 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:12 pm to
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yeah, it's hard to bet on a scenario other than HRC being the next president at this point. I mean, others have a chance, but smart money is going to be put down on her until further notice.


dayum this board love them some HRC . She was the obvious POTUS in 08 and lost to some more left of her. Now the Obama base is pissed because he isn't left enough. Warren or that Montana gov (I am too lazy to google it right now) could beat HRC in a dem primary if they decide to run and run a competent race.

Also the Obama coalition can be picked apart. If Rand (or any other R but Rand has the best shot at the present) can get 15-20% of the AA vote, roughly 5-10% more of the young vote than what Romney got and 10% more of the hispanic vote he will win. Obama won by less than a million votes in the states that count.
Colorado- 137,000 (rand could win that)
Florida - 74,000
Ohio- 167,000
Iowa - 91,000
Virgina- 149,000

by my math that is 618,000 votes in the swing states to pick up. Johnson got 40,000 votes in florida and Rand would get all of those so really only 30k need to be picked up.

ETA: LINK
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Leave the abortion, woman's rights bullshite behind


They do, and have.

The media and Dems are the ones that bring shite up and when the GOP tries to assert that other matters are more important, they are attacked for not caring or trying to hide something by the oh so unbiased media.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34843 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:19 pm to
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ust dropping the emotional social shite would help ten fold


Honestly though, they have, for the most part. Look at the last election, the only reason those issues got brought up is because of the Dems. Sure you have the dolts like santorum that run exclusively on social issues it seems, but for the large part, the candidates have been trying to make the message purely economical it seems.

They need to stop pandering so the social progressives of the party (I use progressives meaning those wanting to use federal power to enact social morals. There is nothing conservative about that). Stop making the message "we need to enact these laws to help keep government in check" (because that makes sense ) and make it "We need to take government out of these arenas to reign in its power. this is how"
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:26 pm to
It's easy to blame the Ds and dem ran media but when you have GOP mbers running on these issues it's easy to group the whole bunch together.

Just like earlier I was emailed a speech by D'souza and told "listen to his message but just block out the religious speak", that's not the way to have to receive a message to appeal to the masses.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34843 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:31 pm to
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when you have GOP mbers running on these issues it's easy to group the whole bunch together.



Besides Santorum, who really ran on social issues?

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It's easy to blame the Ds

Because they are the ones that want to make this the debate. This is how they have determined they can sway opinion, and it has worked for the most part (Presidential elections speaking at least).

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that's not the way to have to receive a message to appeal to the masses.


By your logic, then every democratic candidate is as crazy as Elizabeth Warren?

You are proving my point pretty well in this. The democratic candidates can have a bunch of crazy positions, but it isn't indicative of the entire party for some reason. One republican candidate has a crazy position on a subject, and it is indicative of the entire party.

Their problem isn't their positions, it is the way their message gets presented(yes by the media). Look at the tea party. A few politicians claim to be a part of it and try and push social reform on that platform, all of a sudden the entire tea party is for social reform, when in actuality, it was formed for financial reform.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:34 pm to
They may have a bunch of crazy positions but are still winning elections.

GOP just needs to get on the same page and come to terms with the times. The way I suspect they will rally against Rand makes me sick to my stomach.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34843 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:38 pm to
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They may have a bunch of crazy positions but are still winning elections.


I'm not disagreeing there. They have become very good at dictating the conversation. the GOP is constantly just having to reply to arguments or attacks. Impossible to win that way today.

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OP just needs to get on the same page and come to terms with the times. The way I suspect they will rally against Rand makes me sick to my stomach.


100% agree. Rand Paul is doing what the party should be doing. He is trying to dictate the conversation, and keep it on the truly important messages. He is trying to get the party to move back to the right (right in the historical sense of more individual freedoms, not the modern misconception of right meaning gov't intervention). I hope it works.


ETA: Also, I'm fully aware there are a ton of RINO's in the GOP that will do everything they can to stop his movement. I realize they are all crazy assholes and need to be "taken care of"
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:25 pm to
Wonder if they will publish a picture with him and NUL director Marc Morial??
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