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re: IRS agrees to enforce tax law against churches involved in political activity
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:14 pm to RCDfan1950
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:14 pm to RCDfan1950
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However, if a Corporation can have a voice in the political process as a manner of free speech...why can't a Church.
churches can
they just can't enjoy the benefits of a 501(c)(3) designation while supporting political candidates
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:20 pm to Jon Ham
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A church can certainly have a voice in the political process, but by doing so they are no longer a 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization. In order to qualify for 501(c)(3) tax exempt status, you must be a charitable organization that is not involved in political activity. Some churches want to have their cake (be tax exempt) and eat it too (while being politically active).
Isn't the operative term "majority" of activities?
Doesn't matter to me because I do not want church to become politicized. My citizenship is in Heaven.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:22 pm to Reubaltaich
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Black churches have been very political for decades.
Voter drives, politicing from the pulpit, canvassing neighborhoods...
The question is will the IRS go after black churches?
I agree with you on this. The IRS will go after black churches just like other churches. I suspect the IRS won't even both with smaller churches.
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Certain activities or expenditures may not be prohibited depending on the facts and circumstances. For example, certain voter education activities (including presenting public forums and publishing voter education guides) conducted in a non-partisan manner do not constitute prohibited political campaign activity. In addition, other activities intended to encourage people to participate in the electoral process, such as voter registration and get-out-the-vote drives, would not be prohibited political campaign activity if conducted in a non-partisan manner.
On the other hand, voter education or registration activities with evidence of bias that (a) would favor one candidate over another; (b) oppose a candidate in some manner; or (c) have the effect of favoring a candidate or group of candidates, will constitute prohibited participation or intervention.
The Restriction of Political Campaign Intervention by Section 501(c)(3) Tax-Exempt Organizations
Encouraging people to vote seems ok ,but you get into trouble once you start endorsing any political party of candidate.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:23 pm to Socratics
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The IRS will go after black churches just like other churches.
Exactly how young are you?
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:23 pm to Wolfhound45
View this as an opportunity to have more skin in the game - if this is what it takes to stay relevant and to keep moral pressure on abhorrent practices like elective abortion of viable children the so be it.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:24 pm to the808bass
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And you don't seem to understand how involved black churches typically are in politics with zero pushback from the IRS. But if a white baptist church hands out a voter guide, the foundations of our freedom are in danger.
From what I know, the IRS has not really been enforcing the rules against any church.
I don't know how the IRS will decide who to investigate, and I do not know the political or religious leanings of the people in the IRS.
I thinks it's good that the IRS has simply agreed to enforce it's own rules. If there are issues with the enforcement, then we can take that up when it occurs.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:25 pm to asurob1
quote:Churches pay sales tax. Very few Churches have significant income in excess of expenses. It ain't that much money even if they were required to pay income/corporate taxes.
Good to see, I look forward to the day when we require these God inc. places to actually all pay taxes like the rest of us.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:25 pm to Jon Ham
Would be nice if all such tax exempt groups would be investigated for poli work.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:26 pm to Diamondawg
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Churches pay sales tax.
No, they don't.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:27 pm to Jon Ham
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I don't know how the IRS will decide who to investigate, and I do not know the political or religious leanings of the people in the IRS.
I do and I do.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:27 pm to Jon Ham
quote:We know the political leanings, it amazes me people want to give this corrupt organization more power.
political or religious leanings of the people in the IRS.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:31 pm to the808bass
quote:Ours does
No, they don't.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:32 pm to Diamondawg
Then they're lazy. You take a tax exempt letter with you when you purchase something and you don't pay sales tax.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:35 pm to the808bass
Are churches exempt from sales tax?
No, churches must pay sales tax. However, churches are exempt from use tax on the use, storage or consumption of literature, video tapes and photographic slides used by religious institutions for the propagation of their creed or for carrying on their customary nonprofit religious activities, and on the use of any tangible personal property purchased and first used in another state by religious institutions.
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Is a nonprofit organization registered with the IRS as 501(c)(3) corporation exempt from Mississippi sales and use tax?
Unless the organization is specifically exempt by Mississippi law, nonprofit organizations are subject to Mississippi sales and use tax. Please contact the Sales Tax Bureau to determine those organizations that qualify for exemption.
How do I get a sales tax exemption certificate for a religious or charitable organization?
Mississippi does not issue sales tax exemption certificates. Religious organizations are not exempt from sales or use tax and not all charitable organizations are exempt. The Department of Revenue does provide an organization that is specifically exempt under Mississippi law with a letter (upon their request) to provide to vendors verifying the organization’s tax exempt status. Vendors making sales to exempt organizations should request a copy of that document and keep it on file.
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No, churches must pay sales tax. However, churches are exempt from use tax on the use, storage or consumption of literature, video tapes and photographic slides used by religious institutions for the propagation of their creed or for carrying on their customary nonprofit religious activities, and on the use of any tangible personal property purchased and first used in another state by religious institutions.
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Is a nonprofit organization registered with the IRS as 501(c)(3) corporation exempt from Mississippi sales and use tax?
Unless the organization is specifically exempt by Mississippi law, nonprofit organizations are subject to Mississippi sales and use tax. Please contact the Sales Tax Bureau to determine those organizations that qualify for exemption.
How do I get a sales tax exemption certificate for a religious or charitable organization?
Mississippi does not issue sales tax exemption certificates. Religious organizations are not exempt from sales or use tax and not all charitable organizations are exempt. The Department of Revenue does provide an organization that is specifically exempt under Mississippi law with a letter (upon their request) to provide to vendors verifying the organization’s tax exempt status. Vendors making sales to exempt organizations should request a copy of that document and keep it on file.
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:37 pm to the808bass
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I do and I do.
What are the political and religious leanings of the IRS and what provided this info to you?
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:41 pm to the808bass
quote:Comments?
Then they're lazy. You take a tax exempt letter with you when you purchase something and you don't pay sales tax.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:52 pm to the808bass
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Churches pay sales tax.
No, they don't.
Yes they do...
Also, most Churches pay property tax. The only tax that Churches are exempt from are the "Income" tax levied by State and Federal Governments.
I am not aware of any Church that does not pay property taxes. However, I suppose it is possible local municipalities could exempt them. I am just not aware of any.
And by the way.. Most Churches pay FICA and Medicare Taxes too...
ETA... Sales Tax exemptions only apply to items purchased that will be used for resale..
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:59 pm to Socratics
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I agree with you on this. The IRS will go after black churches just like other churches.
says who? Lois Lerner? Eric Holder?
You mean the govt officials who have been so even handed at applying the law?
Geesus I hope you aren't really stupid enough to believe that..
Posted on 7/20/14 at 2:05 pm to klrstix
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Also, most Churches pay property tax. The only tax that Churches are exempt from are the "Income" tax levied by State and Federal Governments.
This is incorrect. Churches only pay property tax on property which isn't operated for a religious purpose. Instance: if a church owns a home and rents it out, they would technically owe property tax on it (though many try to skate on this). They would not owe property tax on their church building.
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ETA... Sales Tax exemptions only apply to items purchased that will be used for resale..
This is incorrect.
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And by the way.. Most Churches pay FICA and Medicare Taxes too...
This is also incorrect.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 7/20/14 at 2:11 pm to the808bass
We should tax the living shite out of Mosques. And if those heathen bastards don't like it, burn them to the ground.
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