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re: man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold (for selling untaxed cigarettes)
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:54 pm to oleyeller
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:54 pm to oleyeller
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bad things can happen when you break the law.. you break the law be prepared to have something bad happen
That's right. Law and order must prevail, especially when it relates to the state not being able to get its money. Thank God for people like you that support our state in its efforts to control the population.
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:55 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Thanks, Doctor.
well I am triple boarded jackass
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:56 pm to Mo Jeaux
your posts read like a 13 year old girl.
Are you not able to see what's beyond the surface of this? Can you not see an ymore than ,was just breakin up a fight,maybe sellin cigarettes,dey kilt him?
Are you not able to see what's beyond the surface of this? Can you not see an ymore than ,was just breakin up a fight,maybe sellin cigarettes,dey kilt him?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:56 pm to Bleeding purple
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well I am triple boarded jackass
That's great. How did you diagnose what happened to this person when you appear to be in Texas and he was in New York? a-hole.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:57 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:12 at most. What highschool do you attend?
How did you diagnose what happened to this person when you appear to be in Texas and he was in New York? a-hole.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:59 pm to Mo Jeaux
So your answer to appropriate force to arrest someone who is resisting is to write them a ticket instead and not arrest them?
I see.
How many times does the person get to have this ticket option versus getting arrested? How many times for the same crime? How many unpaid tickets are they allowed?
At what point does ignoring the law by continuing to break the law and ignoring the penalty by refusing to pay the tickets become too much? When can a LEO arrest someone then?
I see.
How many times does the person get to have this ticket option versus getting arrested? How many times for the same crime? How many unpaid tickets are they allowed?
At what point does ignoring the law by continuing to break the law and ignoring the penalty by refusing to pay the tickets become too much? When can a LEO arrest someone then?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:59 pm to meauxjeaux2
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your posts read like a 13 year old girl.
Thanks! And just last week someone told me that my posts read like they were written by a 60 year old man. It appears that I can almost run the full gamut.
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Are you not able to see what's beyond the surface of this?
Yes, but it appears that many of you can't.
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Can you not see an ymore than ,was just breakin up a fight,maybe sellin cigarettes,dey kilt him?
OK, so I know you told me my posts seemed as if they were written by a 13 year old girl, but I'm afraid this does not even appear to be comprehensive English. Can you try again?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:01 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:I was trying to be hip,get on your level.
OK, so I know you told me my posts seemed as if they were written by a 13 year old girl, but I'm afraid this does not even appear to be comprehensive English. Can you try again?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:02 pm to meauxjeaux2
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12 at most. What highschool do you attend?
lol. Do you really want to play that game? I happen to have a high school degree, an undergrad degree, a graduate degree, and a JD. However, I don't feel as if they provide me with any sort of special authority on an anonymous message board. But, if you really want to go down that road, what is your educational background?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:02 pm to CocomoLSU
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Either way, sad situation that someone died, but nothing seemed excessive IMO.
I just saw a new video on Facebook. Not sure if it's been released to the public. It's about 5 minutes long and pretty disturbing.
It's the victim just laying their with a lifeless body and the EMS and cops are doing NOTHING to try and revive him.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:04 pm to meauxjeaux2
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I was trying to be hip,get on your level.
My posts are written in proper English, the occasional typo and/or misplaced word, notwithstanding. Are you retarded?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:05 pm to Mo Jeaux
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How did you diagnose what happened
I didn't
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you appear to be in Texas and he was in New York?
Do you really think having less mileage between you and the dead criminal, makes you more capable in medical sciences than me?
Hell at least I am smart enough to not live in a state where I disagree with laws and live in anger filled paranoia of LEO's.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:05 pm to Bleeding purple
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So your answer to appropriate force to arrest someone who is resisting is to write them a ticket instead and not arrest them?
How about not arresting someone for something so asinine? Where do you draw the line, Mr. law and order?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:06 pm to LSUzealot
i don't think this is whether or not to arrest issue or if force was necessary. If you break the law you get arrested. If you resist you will have force.
the issue is the level of force. i really doubt the NYPD trains or sanctions a chokehold as a means to non-lethal force.
the issue is the level of force. i really doubt the NYPD trains or sanctions a chokehold as a means to non-lethal force.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:06 pm to Mo Jeaux
The police said he was not in distress. Of course not, he's dead. This will become a polarizing event here if heads don;t roll and people are not held accountable.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:08 pm to Bleeding purple
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quote:
How did you diagnose what happened
I didn't
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But I can EXPLICITLY tell you that the 17 second choke hold in the video is a far cry from enough to cause any grave bodily injury.
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Do you really think having less mileage between you and the dead criminal, makes you more capable in medical sciences than me?
No. Please show me where I made that claim. You're the one making a claim on what the police
force did to the man.
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Hell at least I am smart enough to not live in a state where I disagree with laws and live in anger filled paranoia of LEO's.
So you agree with every law in the state of Texas.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:10 pm to Mo Jeaux
I knew you had to be a lawyer.
All you know how to do is deflect questions, attack other of differing opinion, and question the validity of the law.
try answering the question.
Please tell me what you would have deemed necessary and appropriate force? What is the next step in securing this very large and powerful mans hands after he has forcefully pulled them away from you during your attempt to handcuff him?
All you know how to do is deflect questions, attack other of differing opinion, and question the validity of the law.
try answering the question.
Please tell me what you would have deemed necessary and appropriate force? What is the next step in securing this very large and powerful mans hands after he has forcefully pulled them away from you during your attempt to handcuff him?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:13 pm to Bleeding purple
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In Texas, it is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.
Nice law you have there, Tex. I hope the cops beat the shite out of you if you ever violate this one.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:15 pm to Bleeding purple
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I knew you had to be a lawyer.
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All you know how to do is deflect questions, attack other of differing opinion, and question the validity of the law.
Yes, how dare I have the audacity to question the validity of the law in these here United States of America!
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try answering the question.
Why? The question itself is based on a flawed premise.
What level of force is appropriate to use against you for taking more than three sips of beer at a time while standing? Can the cop shoot you? If not, why not? You're violating "THE LAW."
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:20 pm to Mo Jeaux
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How did you diagnose what happened I didn't
diagnosis is a declaration of pathology.
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But I can EXPLICITLY tell you that the 17 second choke hold in the video is a far cry from enough to cause any grave bodily injury.
is a declaration of what did not occur.
you see a diagnosis would be: myocardial infarction causing a non sustainable ventricular rhythm and ultimately cerebrovascular anoxia and cardiorespiratory arrest all likely precipitated by long standing OSA with right sided heart failure due to morbid obesity and likely comorbidities of uncontrolled DMII, HTN, and dependent tobacco abuse.
But I did not assert any of that because I am too far away to make a diagnosis. I am not however too far away to watch a video and describe the potential affects of an action in the video.
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Please show me where I made that claim. You're the one making a claim on what the police force did to the man.
Your implication that the choke hold killed the man and that any other assertion by a trained medical professional is wrong, which you supported with the distance argument, does not strictly make that claim but certainly implies it.
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So you agree with every law in the state of Texas.
Nope but I agree with many more here than I would in NYC where you seem to dislike so many but still choose to live.
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