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re: Does Welter prove his haters wrong this season?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:49 am to therick711
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:49 am to therick711
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therick711
I agree with you. NO linebacker should ever miss a tackle. Not one! And to make things worse, no other linebacker anywhere ever misses a tackle. Please keep posting. Your deep and astute knowledge of football is an inspiration to all of us.
We need to petition Miles to dump Chavis' old self and bring YOU in because everybody knows that you know way more than Chavis.
Thanks for showing us the way.
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:49 am to Alatgr
if you watch the games, he has a bad first false step and takes terrible angles a lot of the times.
did he make some plays in 2013? sure... but he averaged 2 tackles a game.
two.
did he make some plays in 2013? sure... but he averaged 2 tackles a game.
two.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:52 am to SouthdownsTiger
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I dunno, maybe he's a great practice player, or maybe that type guy who keeps all the other D guys in proper alignment
all of this is correct. if you watch enough, you'll see that welter is great pre-play. unfortunately sometimes after the snap it's 11 on 10.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:55 am to Gray Tiger
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Gray Tiger
First of all, TigLee made the fair comment that Welter missing a tackle on a wide receiver is not necessarily a killer. So, the question is and remains, what about missed tackles in the run game. That is a large part of what a middle linebacker does.
See, here's the issue. If he had a great year and he missed a few tackles, that's one thing and maybe your ridiculous overreaction would be warranted. He was by any standard not great last year, not even average. He wasn't, however atrocious. He just was not as good as anyone else who manned the position since 2000. His big problem is he misses tackles and the thing that analysts have shown on film, he gets "behind" runners and gets drug forward, as opposed to taking them on head on.
The Chief is great. Let's just be clear though. Just because someone is the best option, it doesn't necessarily mean they are a good option. Last year he said that Welter had a tremendous spring too. We all know how that worked out. Hopefully, Welter is tremendously successful this year, but that doesn't retroactively make his season last year a good one.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:07 am to therick711
I feel the same as I do about him missing a tackle on a wr.
It's part of football you stupid frick.
It's part of football you stupid frick.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 10:09 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:09 am to TIGRLEE
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I feel the same as I do about him missing a tackle on a wr.
It's part of football you stupid frick.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:11 am to TIGRLEE
Welter was terrible last year, he cannot get off blocks. Weak and Ego didn't help him much though, but there is no denying Welter is not SEC quality.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:13 am to TDTGodfather
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all of this is correct. if you watch enough, you'll see that welter is great pre-play. unfortunately sometimes after the snap it's 11 on 10
I saw some improvement towards the end of last season, but basically agree with this as well.
Chief must feel 11 on 10 is better than 11 on 9.5 or something if he started someone else.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:13 am to fightingtigers98
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Welter was terrible last year, he cannot get off blocks. Weak and Ego didn't help him much though, but there is no denying Welter is not SEC quality.
He wasn't last year. This year, I suspect he will raise his game tremendously. A year of motivation for him and all the accounts of the time he's put in make me think he's going to look like a much different player this year.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:14 am to fightingtigers98
He'll be better I'm sure, but he will never be Minter or Sheppard. He just doesn't have the physical tools. I'm not going to destroy the guy for it becuase he physically can't do some things that the position requires. It's on the coaches to get Beckwith ready.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:14 am to I-59 Tiger
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is it because Welter is white that the 'haters' feel good about themselves knocking him?
Why the constant obsession with race? When I think of Welter, I don't think of a white guy - I think of a player that doesn't seem to make plays. That's the sole reason for my unhappiness with his production on the field.
Especially in sports, we love our guys, whether they're black, white, green, or blue.
Jamarcus Russell was loved at LSU, and Jordan Jefferson was hated. In both cases, it wasn't race.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:16 am to Peliclown
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I don't think he would get as much hate if Beckwith wasn't behind him. Mike linebacker is one position that experience can sometimes cover a lack of athleticism.
Nah, we were used to Minter the one man tackling machine and he was replaced by Welter, who pretty much got pushed around for most of the season.
Welter played better down the stretch. IDK if he proves his haters wrong. Frankly, they have a point. He is less talented than the last few LSU MLBs I can recall (Minter, Sheppard).
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:17 am to therick711
I'm not his biggest fan, but in his defense he is being held here just a tad.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:25 am to fightingtigers98
You should call john or Les and voice your concerns.
Better yet, drive on over to practice facility and request a sit down.
There's a special breed of stupid that flocks to this website.
Where the frick do you people live and frequent so I'll be sure to not go there. Ever.
Better yet, drive on over to practice facility and request a sit down.
There's a special breed of stupid that flocks to this website.
Where the frick do you people live and frequent so I'll be sure to not go there. Ever.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:29 am to Alatgr
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I'm not his biggest fan, but in his defense he is being held here just a tad.
Not to mention these guys he is missing tackles on are some of the best open field players in the country. Welter certainly wasn't the only guy catching air vs these guys.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:37 am to Alatgr
If the coaches think he's better than Beckwith, that's good enough for me. I'm with you guys, last year it was painful to watch him play. Both as a fellow white, and as a fan. But as fans (not as whites, that's racist), we have to rally around him. I mean, here's a kid who keeps his head down and does the right things, and at the end of the day, whether he was or is SEC quality doesn't matter, he's our guy. You don't have to predict his failure to revel in it if it happens. I just want a fair shake for a kid that stays out of trouble and has the right attitude. Don't fault him for where he ends up on the depth chart.
I'm not angry or anything when I see people talking down the kid, because in the heat of the game, I've called him all manner of names. Maybe I'm just sympathetic to the underdog, or maybe my hatred for the other posts has strengthened my dissent. But we need to let go of the JJ BEST SPRING EVAR memories, that wasn't the Chief talking JJ up, that was Les, a known shifty sunshine pumper. Let's take him at his word and see what he looks like.
I'm not angry or anything when I see people talking down the kid, because in the heat of the game, I've called him all manner of names. Maybe I'm just sympathetic to the underdog, or maybe my hatred for the other posts has strengthened my dissent. But we need to let go of the JJ BEST SPRING EVAR memories, that wasn't the Chief talking JJ up, that was Les, a known shifty sunshine pumper. Let's take him at his word and see what he looks like.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:37 am to SouthdownsTiger
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Not to mention these guys he is missing tackles on are some of the best open field players in the country.
That's in the job description. If you're going to play in the SEC, you're going to have to expect to play against some of the best players in the country. Being able to bring guys of that caliber down is a must.
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I mean, here's a kid who keeps his head down and does the right things
Since 2012, absolutely. I think that suspension really re-focused him. Has not had any public issue since then.
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But we need to let go of the JJ BEST SPRING EVAR memories, that wasn't the Chief talking JJ up, that was Les, a known shifty sunshine pumper. Let's take him at his word and see what he looks like.
I agree with your sentiment. One correction though, Chavis had similar words for Welter last year.
LINK
That said, I think he will be much better prepared for his tasks this year and should have a great rebound season.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:41 am to Dr Von Nostrand
Unless he gained an extra gear and got better at tackling, no
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:47 am to therick711
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Since 2012, absolutely. I think that suspension really re-focused him. Has not had any public issue since then.
See, that's my kind of player. One who messes up a little, but gets his crap together in the end. Or they could just get booted from the team but get an enormous back tattoo of Tiger Stadium on their back, that works too.
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