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This is also true. Welfare was created during the Great Depression as a temporary handout. It has now become a way for a certain politcal party to garner votes and it does keep people held down.





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seeLSUrun
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Im just a human being that can make independent decisions without having to check in with whichever party line tells me what to think. Is that so hard to believe?

We would be friends






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Ebbandflow
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America shows its love for the sport in many ways beyond breathless anticipation of big games. It also gives back to the National Football League with tax breaks and publicly funded stadiums.

But does the multibillion-dollar business really need the help, or is the NFL getting a free ride?

Not For Profit

If you walk into NFL headquarters on Park Avenue in Manhattan, "you think you're in the headquarters of Goldman Sachs," says Gregg Easterbrook, author of King of Sports: Football's Impact on America.

The NFL is registered as a not-for-profit, tax-exempt organization — even with a commissioner who makes nearly $30 million a year. From the tax code to big stadium deals, critics say the NFL is getting millions of public dollars that would be better spent elsewhere.

The NFL league office is organized as a 501(c)(6), a part of the tax code that exempts thing like business leagues, chambers of commerce and trade associations.

But that's just the league office, not the 32 individual franchises. "There is no tax break at the NFL for revenue earned from things like ticket sales or jersey sales or corporate sponsorships or television money," says Jeremy Spector, outside tax counsel for the NFL and a partner at Covington and Burling LLP.

Spector tells NPR's Arun Rath that the NFL, including its teams, brings in around $10 billion of annual taxable income.

"None of those revenues are escaping tax. It's the league office — that organizational or administrative arm — that's exempt," Spector says.

The administrative arm handles things like writing the rulebook, hiring referees, running the college draft and negotiating stadium deals.

Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma says it's absurd to call the NFL a "trade association." He's proposed changing the tax code to end the exemption and start collecting taxes from pro sports organizations.

"In a time when we have a $640 billion deficit — and that's the best we've had in five years — shouldn't very wealthy ... sports leagues pay their share?" he asks.

Spector, lawyer for the NFL, says sports organizations are being unfairly singled out.

"I think it's very dangerous if Congress starts picking and choosing which industry or which industry trade associations are eligible for the tax exemption," he says.

If You Build It ...

Besides the tax exemption, the NFL can also get a break through big stadium deals. Take, for example, the Dallas Cowboys.

In the late 1990s, the Dallas Cowboys and the team's owner, Jerry Jones, began plans to expand their stadium or build a new one. Jones shopped in and around Dallas for years, asking for public assistance to fund the stadium.

He found an audience in Arlington, a city just outside of Dallas. The price tag for the public was $325 million. (Jones was responsible for the balance of the money for the $1.2 billion stadium. Dallas News says Jones' contribution "was paid with commercial loans, league funding and proceeds from a ticket and parking tax.")


Suck it, douche






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Jcorye1
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AWW YEAH, LETS TAKE THIS LINE BY LINE!

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Typical that a bunch of ignoramus yahoos would side with the rich organization.


Way to attack the posters, and not the subject. I side with rich and poor, it just matters the issue.

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Very common amongst white southerners to support an organization that doesnt even pay taxes but then criticize the poor for welfare.


The NFL doesn't pay taxes because they disperse the revenues to the teams, WHO PAY TAXES. You think Jerry Jones is making that money tax free? You're insane.

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Do any of you have the same view towards people that willingly join the military? They knew it was dangerous but they have some help.



What does the military have to do with this? That is a truly terrible comparison. These players chose to not negotiate that into their contracts, thereby increasing the total value they were paid.

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Funny of you jackasses to watch, from the safety of your couch, and be entertained by people hitting each other then claiming that they dont deserve to get any help from healthcare. What if players decided to quit playing bc of health risks? Would you change your mind?



If a player quit because they valued their body, I would not mind. Plenty of players have left the game early because they were scared of the effects. Javhid Best is actually suing the NFL WHEN THEY KEPT HIM OUT OF GAMES DUE TO A HEAD INJURY.

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At the very least, the NFL should have a program that researches the condition and allows free treatment for all former players. That way, no one gets money but people are taken care of.



THEY SHOULD HAVE COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED FOR THIS. They should have left some money on the table and bargained for this. It is their fricking fault.






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Jcorye1
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You have no idea what you are talking about, and show an obvious lack of knowledge in taxation issues.

I'll be glad to ignore your posts from now on.






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justustm2
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What about the personal accountability of the NFL?

Sure players knew football was dangerous. That doesn't mean they knew that re entering a game shortly after having a concussion could put you at risk of early onset dementia. Causing you at age forty to forget how to get home from the store.

Players aren't suing over bad knees and bad backs. They're suing because the NFL knew that certain conditions of employment were likely to cause serious brain injuries and hid that information from their employees. It'd be like your employer finding out that sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours a day would make your eyeballs explode after 5 years, not telling you, then when it happens everyone saying, well duh staring a a screen of light is bad for your eyeballs i guess you want a check for your lack of personal accountability.


Do you really believe facts are of consequence to this group?






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justustm2
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I'm not defending the actions of the NFL. My point is the former players aren't entitled to a check from this. Former players should be given free treatment, not money, for this now that it has been identified.


So you believe that if a worker receives a permanent debilitating injury on the job, he should not receive disability income if the job was a dangerous one? A policeman who is shot in the head in the line of duty and suffers similar symptoms to the players, should not receive compensation because he knew of the dangers of his profession? An oil field worker injured on the job in his dangerous profession should not receive disability income? They should only receive medical care but no disability income. Disability income is some liberal notion?

I am glad you guys don't hold that insane position against our military personnel because they surely knew the dangers of the profession they entered. I am also glad you guys weren't the ones deciding the fate of the countless workers injured on the job. Disability income would be a thing of the past. Get hurt on the job you are shite out of luck. You knew it was a dangerous job. Employers would love you guys. Workers not so much.






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Ebbandflow
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Refer to my post, previous to this. I understand the taxation. Sill a slippery slope, no matter how much you dont understabd lawyer jargo





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moneyg
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Refer to my post, previous to this. I understand the taxation. Sill a slippery slope, no matter how much you dont understabd lawyer jargo


You don't understand the taxation. You think the profit made by the NFL and it's teams is not taxed. Every penny of it is taxed.






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SpookeyTiger
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So you believe that if a worker receives a permanent debilitating injury on the job, he should not receive disability income if the job was a dangerous one? A policeman who is shot in the head in the line of duty and suffers similar symptoms to the players, should not receive compensation because he knew of the dangers of his profession? An oil field worker injured on the job in his dangerous profession should not receive disability income? They should only receive medical care but no disability income. Disability income is some liberal notion?

I am glad you guys don't hold that insane position against our military personnel because they surely knew the dangers of the profession they entered. I am also glad you guys weren't the ones deciding the fate of the countless workers injured on the job. Disability income would be a thing of the past. Get hurt on the job you are shite out of luck. You knew it was a dangerous job. Employers would love you guys. Workers not so much.


Yeah but cops and military make in a year what these super stars make for a game. Comparison is not even close.






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Ebbandflow
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You don't understand the taxation.


Im afraid it is you who is misunderstanding

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Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma says it's absurd to call the NFL a "trade association." He's proposed changing the tax code to end the exemption and start collecting taxes from pro sports organizations.

"In a time when we have a $640 billion deficit — and that's the best we've had in five years — shouldn't very wealthy ... sports leagues pay their share?" he asks.






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