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re: Zach Lowe: Lots of execs have mentioned Pels in Lance Stephenson sweepstakes
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:20 am to teke184
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:20 am to teke184
I honestly would do Gordon for Stephenson straight up. I think the Pels could use a crazy/bulldog tough guy type guy on the team. I could also see why Indy would want a more tame, better shooting version of Lance.
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:24 am to jdbillio
I'd prefer Stephenson over Gordon, but I'd also prefer addressing the 3, before acquiring another SG. If we found a way to get rid of one of Gordon or Evans (obviously I'd rather keep Evans), then I'd hope they would use that money to re-sign Morrow (assuming he does opt out), and getting a SF.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:24 am to jdbillio
I wouldn't get a move for Stephenson. Just wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for us. He's definitely a Guard.
I mean, sure, if you're just shedding Gordon, ok. But that wouldn't be the case.
I mean, sure, if you're just shedding Gordon, ok. But that wouldn't be the case.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:25 am to Fun Bunch
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Rudy Gay?? The frick???
Yeah, no thanks on Rudy Gay.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:25 am to TigerinATL
what's mcgee's injury status?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:25 am to jdbillio
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I honestly would do Gordon for Stephenson straight up
so would 100% of this board. it's not feasible.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:27 am to teke184
Yeah, needing to move both Evans and Gordon makes it seem not very reasonable. Sending Stephenson to a 3rd team makes sense, but instead of McGee, lets go Wilson Chandler. Gordon to Indy, Stephenson S&T to Denver, Wilson Chandler + Indy Filler + Trade Exception to NOLA.
Indy gets some scoring and spacing that it desperately needs at a position that's thin in the league, especially with only the MLE available.
Denver gets a young up and coming SG, a position of need.
New Orleans gets rid of Gordon while getting an adequate 3 and D wing.
Indy gets some scoring and spacing that it desperately needs at a position that's thin in the league, especially with only the MLE available.
Denver gets a young up and coming SG, a position of need.
New Orleans gets rid of Gordon while getting an adequate 3 and D wing.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:27 am to quail man
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so would 100% of this board. it's not feasible.
Exactly. We'd have to give up a lot more, and to me it just doesn't make a lot of sense.
Puts us in the same position we are now: 3 deep at Guard, no SF at all, weak at C.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:27 am to BilJ
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what's mcgee's injury status?
I posted a report yesterday that he was expected to be ready by training camp. There weren't any details other than that.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:29 am to Fun Bunch
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Exactly. We'd have to give up a lot more
This is an RFA that's getting shipped out of town because of some major red flags by a team with limited cap space and resources because they are a near contender desperate to take that next step after falling short again. I don't think he'll be as expensive as you think he'll be.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 11:30 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:33 am to TigerinATL
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Indy gets some scoring and spacing that it desperately needs at a position that's thin in the league, especially with only the MLE available.
Denver gets a young up and coming SG, a position of need.
New Orleans gets rid of Gordon while getting an adequate 3 and D wing.
I like it. This makes way too much sense to actually happen.
If Demps moves for McGee, he needs to be fired.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:37 am to corndeaux
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If Demps moves for McGee, he needs to be fired.
I see moving for McGee as not much different than not being able to trade Gordon right now. If he works out, great. If he doesn't, the only difference is you're paying to dump a $12 million contract ahead of 2015 FA rather than a $15 million (assuming Gordon doesn't opt out).
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:39 am to TigerinATL
I'm confused, I'm assuming that Stephenson is going to get a 9-10 mil a year offer from someone. Why couldn't we do a sign in trade where Indiana gets Gordon and a second rounder, and the Pelicans get Stephenson and Lavoy Allen/Chris Copeland plus whatever other chump to make the deal work?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:44 am to jdbillio
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Why couldn't we do a sign in trade where Indiana gets Gordon and a second rounder, and the Pelicans get Stephenson and Lavoy Allen/Chris Copeland plus whatever other chump to make the deal work?
Because trading Stephenson for Gordon doesn't fix the current problem of having too much money at guard and not enough talent at SF/C. This team needs to turn one of it's guards, preferably Gordon, into a starting caliber SF and/or C. Gordon for Stephenson doesn't address that, it just locks you in longer term to a guard heavy roster that creates holes in the starting lineup.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 11:45 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:55 am to TigerinATL
Oh I understand that, I guess I have really just confided myself to the fact that we are not going to be able to get rid of Gordon.
I still doubt Indiana would do the trades I proposed, but I could see a decent argument for why a contender may want Gordon, especially Indiana. He is a good spot up shooter, which Indiana desperately needs, and he would be better suited to play the point than Lance.
Not even to bring up the fact that he is way less of a basket case. And who knows maybe EG will actually be motivated to play for Indiana.
Hypothetically in a dream world: If Indiana agrees to do Lance and Copeland (who they barely played last year) in a sign and trade for EG, is there anyone here who says no? If so then why?
I still doubt Indiana would do the trades I proposed, but I could see a decent argument for why a contender may want Gordon, especially Indiana. He is a good spot up shooter, which Indiana desperately needs, and he would be better suited to play the point than Lance.
Not even to bring up the fact that he is way less of a basket case. And who knows maybe EG will actually be motivated to play for Indiana.
Hypothetically in a dream world: If Indiana agrees to do Lance and Copeland (who they barely played last year) in a sign and trade for EG, is there anyone here who says no? If so then why?
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:55 am to TigerinATL
Not to mention, I could only imagine how terribly Stephenson and Monty would get along
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:58 am to Cap Crunch
Idk just to make the argument, I think Lance would come in and be the third best defensive player on the team. I think that is 90% of what Monty really cares about.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:58 am to jdbillio
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If Indiana agrees to do Lance and Copeland (who they barely played last year) in a sign and trade for EG, is there anyone here who says no? If so then why?
I don't say no, but I do say, "Lance, how do you feel about Denver?". Trading Gordon for a guard on an even longer contract is just a non starter IMO. It would have to be a 3 way deal. And if Indy needed more than Gordon, I'd reluctantly throw in the 2015 pick to turn Gordon into Wilson Chandler.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:20 pm to THRILLHO
Sounds like something Dell would do. frick 
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:32 pm to Fun Bunch
Sign and Trade for Tyreke makes sense.
As does for Jrue... start Tyreke at point.
If they want to dump Iam Mahimni or Chris Copeland on us that'd be juuuuuuust fine.
As does for Jrue... start Tyreke at point.
If they want to dump Iam Mahimni or Chris Copeland on us that'd be juuuuuuust fine.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 12:34 pm
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