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re: About to lease a car...any tips before I pul the trigger?

Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

I was in your shoes about 18 months ago. Wife's car crapped out with 10 months left in school...needed something to get her through. Ended up getting a $14k + tax 4Runner, and financed the entire thing. I sold after she was done with school for the amount I owed on the note. So basically just leased something for those 10 months.


Glad it worked out for you. Seems like it's the same difference between buying and financing or leasing.

Seems like you basically paid interest for 10 months (depending on the terms of your note) and then sold it for about the same price as you bought it for?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:33 pm to
Paid P&I for the 10 months.

Financed $16k or so, think I even did it at 7 years knowing I'd refi when she became employed and we could pay less per month for the time being.

Sold the car for the amount we owed on it...
Posted by brbowhunter
baton rouge
Member since Apr 2013
851 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:48 pm to
buy a 96-2000 honda civic for 2k and you will be fine.quit over thinking it. im a mechanic so i know what im talking about and i specialize in hondas as well. your welcome.

plus i just bought and sold a 2000 4 door accord for 1500 with no problems what so ever mechanically.
it was only missing a front bumper and it was 50bux for a brand new replacement. sold it for 2500 cool 1k profit and it had over 165k miles.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65422 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:51 pm to
You have an SUV, the wife's new ride will be something more fuel efficient; guess which vehicle will be used more for discretionary travel? When you are buying a vehicle, the additional miles will decrease the end value when you sell it, but the penalties for too much mileage in a lease scenario can be prohibitive.

Unless you can deduct the use of a vehicle as a business expense a lease does not work. It's tempting in your scenario because you think you're getting a new car cheaply, but the grim reaper will visit you when you turn it in. If that's what you want or can live with, then that's fine but the $170/ month is really going to be way higher with the end game figured in.

That's my opinion, others may think differently. Good luck.
Posted by oldtimefootball
Winnfield La
Member since Feb 2013
434 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:16 pm to
Google "U S News best lease deals".
It will give you all the current lease deals
offered by the manufacturers.

Last week I leased a 2014 Toyota RAV4 LE
through Toyota Leasing Corp. I found this
lease deal on the above mentioned website.
I pay $199 per month for 24 months with $2070
down.

Your $170 monthly payment will be higher
after they add the monthly sales/use tax and other fees.

Honda has a lease deal on their CR-V with no
down payment but the monthly payment is $270
(plus fees and taxes) for 36 months.

Check out this website before you leap.







Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:22 am to
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I really don't want to drain our savings to buy a car with over 100K miles


Most cars these days will run up to 150K and more. A car with 100K might be ideal for her.

Besides, you will pay plenty for a lease. Get a fairly high mileage car and keep your savings.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41478 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:16 am to
quote:

About to lease a car...any tips before I pul the trigger

umm, don't do it?

Leasing a car is the dumbest thing a person can do, financially speaking.
Posted by trillhog
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Member since Jul 2011
19407 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:49 am to
i don't see what the big deal is on leasing if he's gonna be doing low miles and needs a cheap payment. ya'll act like buying a car is some investment anyways, it's a losing proposition almost anyway you look at it.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:09 am to
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Buy a used vehicle for $10K, finance it for 3 years at PenFex (rates are less than 1.99 %). At the end of 3 years, you'll have a vehicle that is in your name and "equity" built in it.


This would be my advice as well except I would USAA rather than PenFed
Posted by trillhog
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Member since Jul 2011
19407 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:18 am to
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This would be my advice as well except I would USAA rather than PenFed



the only thing is a 10k car is gonna be a old pos most likely, what if they have to do a bunch of repairs at the end of 3 years could be no better off. what if you have to replace a transmission or something?
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:34 am to
2006 HONDA CIVIC EX - 31,768 miles - $10,995
2006 VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT - 92,977 miles - $8,988
2009 FORD ESCAPE XLS - 62,446 miles - $10,982
2012 NISSAN VERSA SV - 46,193 miles - $10,997

Just a few results on USAA
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:35 am to
quote:

the only thing is a 10k car is gonna be a old pos most likely,



2009 Honda Civic

looks pretty good to me
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17092 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:35 am to
quote:


Her school is literally 2 miles from our house


I'm failing to understand how walking isn't an option here.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:37 am to
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I'm failing to understand how walking isn't an option here.


or a golf cart
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:42 am to
That is another option... Cooper Mini/Fiat/Smart Car

What about a Vespa?
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:56 am to
Would you want your wife walking 4 miles round trip anywhere in Baton Rouge? And what about when it rains or she has run to an errand? Not having a car is just not an option in Baton Rouge
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Would you want your wife walking 4 miles round trip anywhere in Baton Rouge


Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17092 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:13 am to
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Would you want your wife walking 4 miles round trip anywhere in Baton Rouge?


Depends on the area.

quote:

And what about when it rains or she has run to an errand?


If the choice is between making due for the time being, or settling for a vehicle purchase/lease...I would choose the former. Ms. brgfather129 had her car finally die and we waited four months until the "right" vehicle came along. We made it work.

quote:

Not having a car is just not an option in Baton Rouge


You have a vehicle.

If you need a car, you need a car. I feel strongly that bad buying decisions are made when you NEED a car...you could slow the process down a little and make a more informed decision with your money, especially if it is tight. Walk/carpool/etc until the time is right and then pull the trigger when it makes more sense to do so.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15034 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:13 am to
I mean, that is a ton of money for going 2 miles each way. You lol'd at the bike suggestion but that's the kind of commute where a bicycle or even walking is actually feasible. That's what I did back when I was in graduate school (of course the internal combustion engine was a new and unproven technology at the time...)

The other option is you driving her, although that might not work for schedules.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 10:15 am
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38498 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:32 am to
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Thanks for the tip. I'm currently checking it out now to get an idea on what the numbers should look like on the items Will Cover laid out.


Leasing has become an incredibly effective tool for dealers to sell their product at a significantly higher price and profit margin and is often “pushed” or “encouraged” through the sales process.

• Leasing makes the car more affordable and therefore easier to sell. The buyer gets focused on being able to drive a nicer vehicle for a lower monthly note than what they most likely could not afford to buy.

• It allows the customer to afford a more expensive car, and the more expensive the car, the larger the profit.

• Leasing allows the dealer to legally hide the true cost/price of the vehicle and charge you a higher price than you would normally agree to.

• A leasing customer is more likely to return to the same dealership to get their next vehicle and next vehicle and next vehicle. Even though your original sales person will be long gone, the dealership is able to maintain customer retention and that’s where it pays off in the long run.

An inflated residual value lowers your monthly payments, but it can also handcuff you. A more realistic residual value will make it easier to sell the lease, trade your vehicle in the middle of the lease or buy the vehicle at the end of the lease. Many people get lured in by the low initial payment, but should beware that all the financial factors that go into leasing, including trading in your current vehicle to obtain a new leased vehicle will effectively ensure your monthly payment will be much higher in subsequent leases. This makes it hard to break the cycle and purchase future vehicles with a sizable down payment.

Leasing is a convenience that you’ll pay for in the end. Put another way, if you can’t afford to buy your next vehicle with a four-year loan or less, then you really can’t afford it.

The better deal long-term is to buy a reliable vehicle (good, late model used vehicle or lower priced new vehicle) and hold onto it as re-leasing every three to five years is no way to build wealth.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 10:34 am
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