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re: Blake Dean, where does he rank among all-time LSU baseball greats?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:34 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:34 pm to thunderbird1100
Hitting for singles and GIDP with a flat swing doesn't put him top 10, I'm sorry. And he fell way off last year. Don't get me wrong, he's one of my favorite tigers. But let's not get carried away because of one great season.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:36 pm to Penrod
quote:But they told me he wasn't so....
I think he was lazy because his teammates told me he was lazy
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:40 pm to ell_13
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But they told me he wasn't so....
One of us wuz lied to!
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:42 pm to ell_13
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Hitting for singles and GIDP with a flat swing doesn't put him top 10, I'm sorry. And he fell way off last year. Don't get me wrong, he's one of my favorite tigers. But let's not get carried away because of one great season.
Raph hit .373 over his 3 year career here with the shitty bats. Yeah, he wasn't a power hitter, but hitting .373 over your career with a .431 season (in which he flirted with .500 half way through it), being the only Tiger to ever lead the NCAA in batting average, qualifies him for Top 10.
Let's not even get into the fact he only struck out 13 times in 232 AB that .431 season...which is absurdly great.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:45 pm to thunderbird1100
There are plenty of guys with that career average with much better overall numbers including power and speed. He could hit for average which is the only thing these bats don't kill (see Stevenson).
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:46 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Trust me, I'm not trying to diminish what he was able to accomplish as a hit-for-average player. But just looking at that one thing is too narrow. There's so much more to playing baseball.
Let's not even get into the fact he only struck out 13 times in 232 AB that .431 season...which is absurdly great.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:48 pm to ell_13
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There are plenty of guys with that career average with much better overall numbers including power and speed. He could hit for average which is the only thing these bats don't kill (see Stevenson).
Power numbers have fallen off dramatically but averages have also dipped off significantly with the new bats as well. It's not near as easy to have a nice juicy average now as it was pre-2011.
Raph had one of the best single seasons ever in our history, and was really, really good the other seasons as well. He should be Top 10.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:52 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:For the power hitters whose HRs and Doubles turned into outs and the weaker hitters who can't get away with bad mechanics.
but averages have also dipped off significantly with the new bats as well.
A single season with a very high average doesn't hide the other flaws compared to guys who did much more.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:53 pm to ell_13
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A single season
You keep saying a single season, he had one of the best single season ever, then ALSO had 2 great seasons outside of that one as well.
It's not like he hit .193 then .431.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:54 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:Again, Rhymes is one of my all-time favorite tigers. He was a team player and one of the best hitters to come through. I'm not denying that. Hell, one of his family members just handed me a regional ticket once because they had a spare and I happened to be waiting for the box office to open.
Why do you hate Raphe ell?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:55 pm to ell_13
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Again, Rhymes is one of my all-time favorite tigers. He was a team player and one of the best hitters to come through. I'm not denying that. Hell, one of his family members just handed me a regional ticket once because they had a spare and I happened to be waiting for the box office to open.
It's hard to compare pre and post 2011 players. For all we know Raph could have hit 10+ HR and 15+ 2B each year if he played from 2008-2010 instead of 2011-2013.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:57 pm to ell_13
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Hell, one of his family members just handed me a regional ticket once because they had a spare and I happened to be waiting for the box office to open.
If i had a dime for everytime ive heard this story, i'd have like 4 dimes.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:58 pm to ell_13
I guess it's because he was the quiet storm, so to speak. When I think of great tigers, I think Walker, Furniss, Larson, Mouton....and the common theme with them was power. I know, different bats, but HR's stand out over a really good average.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:03 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:We're not comparing him to guys who hit .193. We're comparing him to the best players in LSU history. You would put him above these:
It's not like he hit .193 then .431.
Furniss
Walker
Cresse
McClure
Barbier
Fontenot
Belle
Holt
Patterson
Johnson
Larson
Mahtook
He was an all-american and deservedly so... but with 100 hits only 15 were for extra bases. Even with these bats, that's a tiny percentage.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:13 pm to Lester Earl
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top 10, closer to 10 than 1
Todd Walker
Albert Belle
Eddie Furniss
Russ Johnson
Lyle Mouton
Brandon Larson
Brad Cresse
Mike fontenot
Ryan Theriot
Aaron Hill
Brad Hawpe
DJ LaMaheiu
Mikie Mahtook
These all make top 10 before Dean
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:15 pm to ell_13
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Not in my top 10, but I'd say top 20 for sure.
I think I probably agree with this.
EDIT: And that's just for hitters. There's no way that Blake is in the top 20 overall Tiger baseball players. Keep in mind that LSU has had 68 players go to the Majors. ( LINK LINK LINK)
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:45 pm to Doc Fenton
i used to love going to practice and see him put balls on a tee and smack them out of the park. it was incredible the power he had.
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