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re: $1500-2000 M4 build/prebuilt rifle recommendations?

Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by LSUmakemewanna
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
1733 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:00 pm to
I love my EXPS2-2 (eotech). I don't leave my dot in so I don't mind not having the 50k battery life that the Aimpoint has. Eotech has a pretty large field of view. That being said, my next build will probably host an Aimpoint Pro. Great buy especially if you can get for the $350 range.

As far as the flip magnifier. I don't have any experience with, but folks I know who have used in the field have complained about it getting in the way and being a bit bulky. If you want magnification, think of a variable power scope with a true 1x mag.
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:06 pm to
Team Aimpoint checking in
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20967 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

Soul Gleaux


Did you know right away you wanted the Aimpoint or did you pick it over the EOTech? If so, what made you go with the Aimpoint?
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:12 pm to
Get a magnified scope with a true 1x.

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US Optics
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Range from cheap to first born.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25941 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

EOTech=poo
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:15 pm to
I had some experience with both (shooting various friends' rifles). I like them both but went with the aimpoint because of the absurd battery life and they just seem more rugged to me. As far as the magnifiers, I'm personally not a fan but they are great at what they do. I did what lsumakemewanna recommended, got a variable magnification scope that has an illuminated dot in the middle of the reticle (for my 5.56, the aimpoint is on my sbr 300BLK). So you can use it as you would a red dot when on the 1x magnification.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 5:16 pm
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10360 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:20 pm to
I know you asked soul but this solidified my pick for aimpoint
quote:

Then one night, a call I went to drew my attention to the one MAJOR drawback the entire EOTech line suffers from, at least from a patrol rifle standpoint.  And when I say drew my attention to it, it pounded me on the head with that shortcoming like it was a 12 pound sledge hammer.  It is easy to practice deploying your rifle in static environments, under little or no stress.  However, that night, when I pulled up to my call in my patrol car, I immediately came under fire.  I was taking rounds from a bad guy armed with a rifle, and I was sitting in my car with my gun in the rifle rack.  Everything else went as practiced, hit release, open lock, grab gun, establish grip, charge, shoulder, but turning the EOTech on was something that just did not happen, at least not until I regrouped.

In the days that followed that incident, I did some serious reflection both in respect to how I  performed my job in general and in respect to the equipment I carry daily.  One of the victims of that self-evaluation was my EOTech.  That incident drove home the one and only truly negative thing I have to say about the EOTech line, especially when compared to the Aimpoint line, and that is battery life, which is directly linked to runtime.  The EOTech XPS2 will run 600 hours at brightness setting 12, however, the optic powers itself off after either 4 or 8 hours depending on which button you use to turn it on.  Either way, that does not cover my 10 hour shift, and 600 hours goes by pretty quick causing battery expenses to rise.  Compare that to the battery life of just about any Aimpoint, which is measured in years, not hours.  Another place the Aimpoint line beats out the EOTech is the power/brightness adjustment controls, but this is only a minor quibble.  The EOTech uses rubber coated buttons, which are not the easiest to use, but they do work.  The Aimpoints, at least all of those that I have had the chance to play with, use a single knob, which both simplifies the controls and makes them easier to operate with gloved hands or when your attention is primarily directed somewhere else.


LINK to article for the above quoted story

Article detailing advantages of aimpoint Pro

LINK to full article detailing incident

Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20967 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:28 pm to
Nah, I appreciate anybody's input. Thanks for the articles I'll check them out.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 5:28 pm
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66371 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:03 pm to
eotech, aimpoint, and trijicon are the big 3. ive used all and each has their own pros and cons. try some out at a local shop and see which you like best
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20967 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:19 pm to
Will do. In others news, finally going to get my CC permit tomorrow after years of procrastinating.
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