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Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:22 pm to TigerinATL
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Monty gave AD and Jrue a list of players at their position he thought were better than them and they got pissed. Monty's not a bad motivator, I just wish he would find his Tex Winter.
I said this on BSS on their Monty Season in Review. His positives are intangibles, and his negatives are fixable. That's what's so damn frustrating. It's like watching a player with all the talent in the world just never figure out how to play the game.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:28 pm to ShamelessPel
So that's why he loves Aminu and Roberts so much. He sees himself.
Roberts - Monty the player
Aminu - Monty the coach
Roberts - Monty the player
Aminu - Monty the coach
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:48 pm to ShamelessPel
Nothing Monty says anymore will garner anything but hate. I didn't have much of a problem with his presser today.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:55 pm to TotesMcGotes
He'll get his chance with a healthy team (we hope!) next year. If he starts Jrue/Tyreke in the backcourt and Demps gets him a real center plus a 3 & D small forward, the Pels should win (even if it is inspite of Monty at times).
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:58 pm to TotesMcGotes
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Nothing Monty says anymore will garner anything but hate. I didn't have much of a problem with his presser today.
I'm not trying to be combative, but can you provide some examples? I liked the AD thing. There was a ton of mind boggling quotes in there though.
Most Notably: Tyreke playing better as a starter because he was starting and not playing more minutes with superior talent? He also sucked as a starter with Steimsma/Aminu starting to which Monty seemed completely oblivious.
Also, can you find any examples in there where he took any blame for what happened this season? It was excuse after excuse after excuse. When questioned about the perceived "problems" of the general public, particularly his rotations, he basically said he admires the passion, but we don't know what we're talking about.
The disconnect between GM and coach seemed legitimate as he spent about 5 minutes on the subject and seemed to intimate that Loomis was the intermediary between the two. Why are moves the GM is making disliked by our head coach? Shouldn't they at least be on the same page. This seems silly. It really paints a lot of this season into perspective though.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:06 pm to ShamelessPel
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On Tyreke: "Needs to develop 15-18 footer."
Monty, I have news for you. Tyreke is not a newcomer to the NBA. And he works really hard. It just has not happened for him as a jump shooter.
Now, he happens to have elite talent when it comes to getting to the rim off the dribble AND passing to open shooters when the defense collapses on him.
Monty, if you are incapable of realizing what Dell signed Tyreke to do, perhaps you should resign. It is obvious to most fans on a message board, so you should be able to figure out how to use your team's marquee free agent signing by now.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:20 pm to ShamelessPel
I'll go through it later when I'm home from work.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:23 pm to Jwho77
So Tyreke should stop working to develop a jump shot? 
Tyreke is 24, his game can still evolve. Ya'll will say some dumb shite just to bitch about Monty.
Tyreke is 24, his game can still evolve. Ya'll will say some dumb shite just to bitch about Monty. Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:41 pm to saintsfan22
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So Tyreke should stop working to develop a jump shot? Tyreke is 24, his game can still evolve. Ya'll will say some dumb shite just to bitch about Monty.
Did I say that?
Assuming that's what I meant IS dumb shite. Note that I also said it HAS not happened for Tyreke, not that it won't ever. Monty sucked for most of the season using Evans properly, full well knowing his strengths and weaknesses. That's the point.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:44 pm to Jwho77
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Monty sucked for most of the season using Evans properly, full well knowing his strengths and weaknesses. That's the point.
Which has nothing to do with Monty saying Tyreke needs to develop a 15-18 footer.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:47 pm to saintsfan22
He is mentioning the obvious about a player who has already been working hard on his game and still brings plenty to the table. It is irksome.
Monty needs develop his ability to use his players properly.
Monty needs develop his ability to use his players properly.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:51 pm to saintsfan22
I really like that bourbon street shots article about Tyreke...keep improving on what you are elite at which is getting to the rim
The fact that he can still score at will with no jumper is just incredible to watch...so why develop a redundant skill that Ryno, Morrow, or Jrue can fill when Reke's skill is unique to everyone on the team?
Now for guys that do not get to the rim and finish as well as Reke (like AR) I think developing a mid range game IS a priority
The fact that he can still score at will with no jumper is just incredible to watch...so why develop a redundant skill that Ryno, Morrow, or Jrue can fill when Reke's skill is unique to everyone on the team?
Now for guys that do not get to the rim and finish as well as Reke (like AR) I think developing a mid range game IS a priority
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:56 pm to DeionDeion
Yeah. Tyreke has shown that if you have a big that's alert and has decent hands (not Stiemsma), then when he drives to the basket there's a high probability one of 4 things will happen
Tyreke Layup
Tyreke gets fouled
Tyreke misses layup but creates a "Kobe Assist" offensive rebound
Tyreke gets a teammate a wide open shot
It really is our most reliable play and Tyreke Kamikazi is what I would run in crunch time.
That being said, I'd love for him to be able to punish teams that play off him with a mid range jumper. I don't want him taking it unless he's wide open, every other time he should try and get to the basket.
Tyreke Layup
Tyreke gets fouled
Tyreke misses layup but creates a "Kobe Assist" offensive rebound
Tyreke gets a teammate a wide open shot
It really is our most reliable play and Tyreke Kamikazi is what I would run in crunch time.
That being said, I'd love for him to be able to punish teams that play off him with a mid range jumper. I don't want him taking it unless he's wide open, every other time he should try and get to the basket.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:57 pm to Jwho77
I fully billieve Monty digs his feet into the ground and doesn't make obvious moves because he doesn't want to think the "fans" or what not are correct. He will give his guy every single opportunity to prove that Monty knows whats best no matter how much it actually hurts the team. It's been that way since his first year. He's stubborn to a fault. I didn't make a game once 2014 hit and I didn't renew this year just because I couldn't watch him do what was obviously working just because he needs to prove he knows way more than anyone else in the world. If he gets fired next year I will probably get tickets again but stubbornness and never improving on defense for a defensive coach just got old year after year
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:06 pm to TigerinATL
you know whats interesting about Tyreke's game? its almost EXACTLY what fans were expecting from EG when he came here
A strong guard that can get to and finish at the rim (even though EG has been bad at finishing)
And even though EG has a much better jumper, Reke gets others involved and from watching this season I'll take the latter over the former all day every day
in conclusion eventually he going to have to develop the mid range jumper, but right now it isnt a priority
A strong guard that can get to and finish at the rim (even though EG has been bad at finishing)
And even though EG has a much better jumper, Reke gets others involved and from watching this season I'll take the latter over the former all day every day
in conclusion eventually he going to have to develop the mid range jumper, but right now it isnt a priority
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:11 pm to TigerinATL
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Tyreke Layup
Tyreke gets fouled
Tyreke misses layup but creates a "Kobe Assist" offensive rebound
Tyreke gets a teammate a wide open shot
It really is our most reliable play and Tyreke Kamikazi is what I would run in crunch time
not to mention if he kicks it and the shooter misses or he misses his shot, he is big enough to potentially grab the offensive rebound while under the basket
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:16 pm to DeionDeion
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Tyreke Layup
Tyreke gets fouled
Tyreke misses layup but creates a "Kobe Assist" offensive rebound
Tyreke gets a teammate a wide open shot
It really is our most reliable play and Tyreke Kamikazi is what I would run in crunch time
One of Tyreke's underappreciated driving assets is just how easy it is for him to get DEEP into the paint before kicking out. The difference between a wide open and slightly contested 3.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:21 pm to Jwho77
Evans been in the league for 5 years now. He's not going to suddenly become a shooter. He may learn how to be a more efficient with his shots like he was last season with the Kings but it's rare to see a player develop a legitimate jump shot after 5 season in the league. I just don't see it. It's like people claiming Aminu can and will develop a 3 point shot. Not going to happen.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:32 pm to supe12sta12z
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Evans been in the league for 5 years now. He's not going to suddenly become a shooter.
Ariza made me think the same thing, but he's gotten progressively better at shooting 3s each of the last 4 years.
2011 30.3%
2012 33.3%
2013 36.4%
2014 40.7%
Did anyone here honestly think Ariza had it in him to hit over 40% from 3 on 5.7 shots per game?
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