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re: Front page CNN Opinion- Right Wing Terrorists more dangerous than Jihadists
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:32 pm to upgrayedd
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:32 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
Come now, trackfan didn't sufficiently convince you that him yelling "Allah Akbar" was indicative of nothing, as muslims are prone to yell that while doing any number of other things? I must have missed that argument but I bet it was a doosie.
Thank God.
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:32 pm to L.A.
quote:It's because radical Islamic terrorists are tolerant like they are. You just sit them down for a fun, cultural exchange filled, heart to heart and they become your best friend.
"Liberals hate all religions except Islam."
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:36 pm to trackfan
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Within the U.S., the headline is accurate because since 9/11, it's so hard far Islamic jihadists to get into this country
Yeah, it's really tough. I bet it's even tougher for them to get govt. assistance........oh, wait.....nevermind.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:40 pm to beaverfever
I'm trying to figure out how he only has 23 as jihadists victims:
Ft Hood 13
DC Sniper 10
Boston massacre 4
NJ beheading 2
Little rock recruiting center 1
Salt lake city shopping mall 5
Houston college killing 1
Ft Hood 13
DC Sniper 10
Boston massacre 4
NJ beheading 2
Little rock recruiting center 1
Salt lake city shopping mall 5
Houston college killing 1
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:42 pm to C
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I'm trying to figure out how he only has 23 as jihadists victims: Ft Hood 13 DC Sniper 10 Boston massacre 4 NJ beheading 2 Little rock recruiting center 1 Salt lake city shopping mall 5 Houston college killing 1
Take out 13 fort hood and that's 23.
Also add workplace violence at fort hood to extreme right wing, because that is a capitalist phenomenon.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:43 pm to Qwerty
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Take out 13 fort hood and that's 23
no fricking way he's that stupid... no fricking way...
Oh on another point, man it sucks to be jewish...
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:44 pm to C
quote:
'm trying to figure out how he only has 23 as jihadists victims:
Ft Hood 13 - workplace violence
DC Sniper 10 - inner city crime
Boston massacre 4 - income tax day hate
NJ beheading 2 - hated the Jersey Shore cast
Little rock recruiting center 1 - youthful whimsy
Salt lake city shopping mall 5 - Mormon problems
Houston college killing 1 - Rick Perry probably encouraged it
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:44 pm to C
quote:
Oh on another point, man it sucks to be jewish...
It really really does. Everyone hates you, no one takes your grievances seriously, and you feel guilty and ashamed about it all of the time.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:00 pm to upgrayedd
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Ft Hood 13 - workplace violence
Are you saying that any time a murderer is Muslim, it's automatically religiously motivated? There's nothing to indicate that John Muhammad was motivated by religion.
quote:
NJ beheading 2 - hated the Jersey Shore cast
Little rock recruiting center 1 - youthful whimsy
Salt lake city shopping mall 5 - Mormon problems
Houston college killing 1 - Rick Perry probably encouraged it
You'll have to provide more details about these killings which I'm unfamiliar with.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:05 pm to kingbob
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Everyone hates you
"If you go outside and run into an a-hole, you ran into an a-hole. If you go outside and everyone you run into is an a-hole, you're the a-hole"
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:08 pm to trackfan
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Are you saying that any time a murderer is Muslim, it's automatically religiously motivated? There's nothing to indicate that John Muhammad was motivated by religion.
Like I said before, I missed your whole tirade on how yelling Allah Akbar isn't out of the ordinary, so I assume you're trying to bait me into the argument.
I'll go for it.
There were no religious overtones during his killing spree?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:10 pm to JasonMason
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Don't waste your time reading the comments to the article. It's a shite storm of stupid.
Yes it is.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:11 pm to trackfan
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There's nothing to indicate that John Muhammad was motivated by religion.
A series of trial exhibits suggested Malvo and Muhammad were motivated by an affinity for Islamicist Jihad.[34]
Exhibit 65-006: A self-portrait of Malvo in the cross hairs of a gun scope shouting, "ALLAH AKBAR!" The word "SALAAM" scrawled vertically. A lyric from Bob Marley's Natural Mystic "Many more will have to suffer. Many more will have to die. Don't ask me why."
Exhibit 65-016: A portrait of Saddam Hussein with the words "INSHALLAH" and "The Protector," surrounded by rockets labeled "chem" and "nuk".
Exhibit 65-043: Father and son portrait of Malvo and Muhammad. "We will kill them all. Jihad."
Exhibit 65-056: A self-portrait of Malvo as sniper, lying in wait, with his rifle. "JIHAD" written in bold letters.
Exhibit 65-067: A suicide bomber labeled "Hamas" walking into a McDonald's restaurant. Another drawing of the Twin Towers burning captioned: "85 percent chance Zionists did this." More scrawls: "ALLAH AKBAR," "JIHAD," and "Islam will explode."
Exhibit 65-103: A lion accompanies chapter and verse from the Quran (Sura 2:190): "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you and slay them wherever ye catch them."
Exhibit 65-109: Portrait of Osama bin Laden, captioned "Servant of Allah."
Exhibit 65-117: The White House drawn in crosshairs, surrounded by missiles, with a warning: "Sep. 11 we will ensure will look like a picnic to you" and "you will bleed to death little by little."
Exhibit 65-101: Malvo's thought for the day: "Islam the only true guidance, the way of peace."
At the 2006 trial of Muhammad, Malvo testified that the aim of the killing spree was to kidnap children for the purpose of extorting money from the government and to "set up a camp to train children how to terrorize cities",[35] with the ultimate goal being to "shut things down" across the United States.[36]
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:12 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Come now, trackfan didn't sufficiently convince you that him yelling "Allah Akbar" was indicative of nothing, as muslims are prone to yell that while doing any number of other things?
I guess when you're unable to rebut what someone actually says, there's nothing left to do but misquote or misrepresent what they said. Islamophobes are gonna Islamophobes.
"All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. . . . . . Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side." - George Orwell
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:18 pm to upgrayedd
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There were no religious overtones during his killing spree?
This isn't a case like the Fort Hood shooting or the Boston Marathon bombing, where it's pretty clear that the perpetrators were on a jihadist bent. Based on everything I've seen and read, the killings were probably just some elaborate scheme to eventually kill his ex-wife and get custody of their children. At least that's what the federal prosecutors believed.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:19 pm to trackfan
So that I'm clear, the implication here is?
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and with radical muslimes, it's the prelude to murder
If that was the only time Muslims said "Allah Akbar", your point might be noteworthy, but Muslims who aren't radical jihadist regurlarly use that phrase too.
Furthermore, even in western culture, it's common for folks to pray right before they're about to do something dangerous. Would you be shocked to learn some members of Seal Team 6 uttered God's name a few times right before they went to take out Osama Bin Laden?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:22 pm to ehidal1
Based on the number of victims in recent years, I would argue that in the U.S., delusional nutjobs are far more dangerous than either anti-government right-wing radicals or Islamic jihadists.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:24 pm to trackfan
Especially black ones killing other black ones, right?? Since that would be the largest group and all
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:24 pm to ehidal1
I saw this on their website earlier when I went to see their "Angle" on the Nevada rancher...I figured that would have been headline news, Armed Prepper Militia descends on Nevada to oppose Feds.
I couldn't easily find it, but the fact that they didn't have that as a headline even on US page is revealing.
I couldn't easily find it, but the fact that they didn't have that as a headline even on US page is revealing.
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