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re: Rob Ryan at LSU pro day
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:08 pm to Meateye
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:08 pm to Meateye
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It has absolutely nothing to do with that. Its all the LSU fans who think the entire LSU team should be drafted in the first round, The stupid LSU fans that think the Saints should draft everyone coming out of LSU, and the morons who get mad at a Saints player for supporting his own alma mater.
True. Anyone that suggest every player that played at LSU should be drafted by the Saints is an idiot. The other side of that coin is ST is full of people who think we shouldn't draft anyone from LSU.
Both groups are equally as stupid.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:08 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:Nope. Nope. Nope.
There needs to be a balance. It does help the Saints as a regional brand if LSU fans can also root for the Saints because a former LSU player is on the team. That's why the Saints should always have at least one LSU player on the team, even if it's only a special teams backup.
If there is a good player worth taking then fine, but frick that having one just to have one bullshite. That's the stuff that drives me insane. I could care less if LSU fans root for the Saints.
quote:Completely agree. Both are very annoying.
True. Anyone that suggest every player that played at LSU should be drafted by the Saints is an idiot. The other side of that coin is ST is full of people who think we shouldn't draft anyone from LSU. Both groups are equally as stupid.
Does NOT matter where a player played(except from an evaluation of how they did against good/bad competition). Only matters if they can play.
Keep the college crap in college.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:15 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
There needs to be a balance. It does help the Saints as a regional brand if LSU fans can also root for the Saints because a former LSU player is on the team. That's why the Saints should always have at least one LSU player on the team, even if it's only a special teams backup. That's why Payton said that "it's time we got another one."
fricking NO!!
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:24 pm to Meateye
There are 42 LSU players on NFL rosters right now. More will be added in the draft. The Saints should normally, therefore, have an LSU player without making any special effort to get one.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:26 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
Completely agree. Both are very annoying. Does NOT matter where a player played(except from an evaluation of how they did against good/bad competition). Only matters if they can play.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:32 pm to GOP_Tiger
The special effort comes from need meeting best player available meeting an LSU player at the Saints pick.
This is the best year in a while for a chance of us taking an LSU player, but it still might not happen. Beckham is the guy if he falls. MAYBE Landry in the second.
But there is zero NEED to have an LSU player. I care about winning, not pleasing some uppity fan base.
This is the best year in a while for a chance of us taking an LSU player, but it still might not happen. Beckham is the guy if he falls. MAYBE Landry in the second.
But there is zero NEED to have an LSU player. I care about winning, not pleasing some uppity fan base.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:35 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
There are 42 LSU players on NFL rosters right now. More will be added in the draft. The Saints should normally, therefore, have an LSU player without making any special effort to get one.
We drafted woods and he didn't work out for us...
Playing at LSU shouldn't go into the decision making at all as you digestives suggested earlier
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:35 pm to Meateye
quote:
, The stupid LSU fans that think the Saints should draft everyone coming out of LSU,
That's because all they know is LSU football . Most don't follow college football as a whole,
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:37 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
We drafted woods and he didn't work out for us...
Every NFL team can name a player from school X that was a bust.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:38 pm to rantfan
Exactly why they should stfu when it comes to drafting players.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:42 pm to Dead End
quote:
Every NFL team can name a player from school X that was a bust.
And??
I wasn't suggesting it as a reason not to draft LSU players. I was giving an explanation to why there isn't an LSU player on the roster
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:51 pm to TigerBait1127
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Playing at LSU shouldn't go into the decision making at all as you digestives suggested earlier
Well, guess what? The marketability of certain players definitely affects teams' choices in the draft and free agency. NFL teams need to sell jerseys and keep the butts in the seats and eyes on the TV screens. You might wish for business decisions to play no role in what the Saints do, but I'm telling you that marketing plays a role whether you like it or not. It's a smaller role with the Saints than with a lot of other franchises that are in worse shape with their fanbases, but it still exists.
And it's good for the Saints' marketing department to have an LSU player to promote. And the Saints would normally have at least one LSU player on the team without even trying. That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:55 pm to GOP_Tiger
And he responded by saying the Saints tried, but LSU failed them.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 4:16 pm to GOP_Tiger
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And it's good for the Saints' marketing department to have an LSU player to promote. And the Saints would normally have at least one LSU player on the team without even trying. That's all I'm saying.
That must be why the saints popularity is at an all time low
And we drafted an LSU fairly high and he couldn't make the team
I don't think the saints give a shite where their players come from. Sean Payton can do whatever the hell he wants. Winning makes the most money from a marketing standpoint
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 4:56 pm to TigerBait1127
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I don't think the saints give a shite where their players come from. Sean Payton can do whatever the hell he wants. Winning makes the most money from a marketing standpoint
Exactly! That GOP guy is talking out of his arse and is one of the reasons LSU fans catch so much flack on this page. That's like saying the Saints need a player from Tulane, Tech, Southern and UL. His point is fricking stupid and naive.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:12 pm to bonethug0108
quote:OMG. Show me on the doll where BR touched you
One of the dumbest things I hear on here is that Saints fans should also be LSU fans. frick Baton Rouge. frick them for all the bullshite they said about us moving there after Katrina and frick their uppity attitudes. This is the fricking pros. Small ball don't play here so take that college shite to the college board and stfu. Edit: And let me be clear, I'm not talking about people that go or went to LSU. I'm talking about the Baton Rouge residents.
ETA: Actually, you know what, screw your pompous arse. We opened our schools for you, and me and most others opened our homes for you. But go ahead and bad mouth the ones that helped the most because you have an elitist attitude. And to stay with the original point of the thread it is dumb as hell to think the saints need to draft LSU players. The saints need to worry about winning period
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:25 pm to lsupride87
I know there were good ones but I heard way more bad shite coming out of it, so I stand by that. Apologizes to those that were genuinely nice but frick the rest. And yes part of that is personal.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:28 pm to bonethug0108
quote:You can think what you want but it is an undeniable fact that Baton Rouge opened more schools and homes for New Orleans than any other city. Sure there were some assholes, but to say you stand by your comment of "frick the whole city of Baton Rouge" lets me know I no longer need to bother reading an opinion such as yours
I know there were good ones but I heard way more bad shite coming out of it, so I stand by that. Apologizes to those that were genuinely nice but frick the rest. And yes part of that is personal.
ETA: It just pissed me off to listens to the small dick pissing contest between New Orleans and Baton Rouge on this board. They are the two biggest cities in this state. There is no reason what so ever for there to be such middle school girl bickering between the two
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:34 pm to lsupride87
Maybe I'm letting the "bad apples" ruin the bunch, but between the stories, personal experience, and things said that were worse than things Atlanta fans have said, it leaves me with a very poor impression of the city.
Like I said, I know not everyone is like that, but I've meet and heard about the bad ones a lot more than the good ones.
And I also said it has nothing to do with LSU or it's fans. This is strictly a resident thing.
Like I said, I know not everyone is like that, but I've meet and heard about the bad ones a lot more than the good ones.
And I also said it has nothing to do with LSU or it's fans. This is strictly a resident thing.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:35 pm to Meateye
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That's like saying the Saints need a player from Tulane, Tech, Southern and UL
Those teams put together don't have a quarter of LSU's fans.
quote:
His point is fricking stupid and naive
There are lots of reasons that LSU players will get a little extra consideration. I only gave one of them earlier. Another is that Saints coaches usually see more of LSU players. When you look at the coaches at Pro Day, Spring game, etc., there were undoubtedly more at LSU than at other universities. Sometimes during the season, some Saints coaches make it to Tiger Stadium if the Saints have a bye.
Another reason is it makes sense to have a good relationship between the coaching staffs. Assistants may work some of the same clinics and stuff.
Of course Sean Payton can do what he wants. Of course winning makes the most money from a marketing standpoint. But if the Saints scouting department rates two players with the exact same grade, and the coaching staff likes both of them, and one of them is from LSU, the LSU player is going to get picked. Anyone who doesn't think so is the one who's being naive.
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