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re: We are one Supreme Court justice away from having our gun rights stripped

Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:11 pm to
This is why it's so important for Scalia, Kennedy and Thomas to test their health and stay on until Rand Paul is elected President of the United States of America, and then appoint replacements that are young as shite, preferably in their very earlly 40's. If those three can make it to 2017 with their health intact, we'll have dodged a political torpedo. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and Ginsburg leaves the court under President Paul.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 8:27 pm
Posted by El Magnifico
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:22 pm to
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I have good friends who I know would follow orders in a heartbeat to turn their guns on American citizens, and it breaks my heart.


Looks like you need new friends
Posted by RelentlessRyan
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:29 pm to
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This is why it's so important for Scalia, Kennedy and Thomas to test their health and stay on until Rand Paul is elected President of the United States of America, and then appoint replacements that are young as shite, preferably in their very earlly 40's. If those three can make it to 2017 with their health intact, we'll have dodged a political torpedo. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and Ginsburg retires/dies under President Paul.


Rubio will get the nomination, but I generally agree with you.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Rubio will get the nomination




He's DOA when he starts his campaign.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 2:38 pm to
I have a BIL in the military and he said he's done if they try and take people's guns. I think the US would find many non compliant personnel if they ordered them to forcibly take our guns.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Can I declare myself a militia? You know, a militia of one.
Yes you can, in fact that is what a militia is, it is citizens, it was never meant to be organized, a citizen of a state bound by firearms for its protection = militia

the left mis use the term as it is defined in the constitution
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 4:39 pm to
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Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer, 1788:

"Militias, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves and include all men capable of bearing arms. To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 4:45 pm to
I think it's pathetic that our Supreme Court has come down to justices voting their individual ideologies rather than actually interpreting the law.

I guess it was bound to happen.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 4:48 pm to
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George Washington's address to the second session of the First U.S. Congress:

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty, teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon and citizens' firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that, to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 and 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil influence. They deserve a place of honor with all that's good. When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour."
Posted by goldennugget
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:30 pm to
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I have a BIL in the military and he said he's done if they try and take people's guns. I think the US would find many non compliant personnel if they ordered them to forcibly take our guns.


You are right about this, at least

I love when liberals say "What good is your gun going to do against the US Government when they can kill you with a drone 2,500 miles away?"

Two things about that, one good luck finding someone willing to drone a U.S. citizen standing up for his rights. Two, if a military member was found that would be willing to drone a U.S. citizen for standing up for his rights, that would cause an absolute revolt/riot nationwide.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:38 pm to
Its never going to come to that. You cant even have an opinion on homosexuality or race in this country anymore, you think our mindset would allow a weaponized assault on our own citizens? Even the libs would lose their shite.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:51 pm to
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good luck finding someone willing to drone a U.S. citizen
All you have to do is antagonize in order to gain predictable response as has been done with Branch Davidian. Then it's a "they shot our people" scenario.

If someone injures your side, your instinct is to injure theirs in spades.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:53 pm to
Yeah, because when I think of rational level headed Americans the first thing that comes to mind are the Branch Davidians
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 5:54 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123771 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:03 pm to
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because when I think of rational level headed Americans the first thing that comes to mind are the Branch Davidians
You think the killing of 2, 3, 4 yr old kids is funny?

You think those kids would have died had the federal incompetents simply arrested Koresh in town? Rationale?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:15 pm to
No, but I also know that the fact that most of them were bat shite crazy (at best, insanely deluded) played a significant role. First, opening fire on federal agents with kids in the building was their choice. Second, they intentionally started the fire that ultimately killed everyone. Third, they were in fact breaking multiple laws...precisely because they were an overzealous movement led by a madman. They were illegally obtaining weapons, molesting children, abusing women, etc. Many of the dead, including most of the children, were killed not by the FBI or the fire but forced or willful ingestion of cyanide.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 6:26 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56245 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 7:08 pm to
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to make it unambiguously conform to the original intent of its draftsmen.
If Stevens or anyone else would care to read the recorded debates and statements during the formation of the 2nd Amendment, it should leave no doubt that the framers were talking about private, individual gun ownership.

They won't ban guns. If they did, it would be Civil War 2. I have no doubt about that.
Posted by detmut
Jesuit 81 Metairie
Member since Sep 2011
2304 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:23 pm to
Waco: The Rules of Engagement (1997)
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:27 pm to
Why they don't go to the Constitutions owners manual (Federalist, Anti-Federalist Papers) baffles me. It's all there in black and white
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 9:29 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90473 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:31 pm to
What a great quote by Washington. I wish we had leaders elected like him today .
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:42 pm to
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the right to bear arms a natural right? And the constitution simply recognizes that? So then, natural rights can never be taken?
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