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re: France strikes a blow for work-life balance

Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:02 pm to
Some people don't see it S a struggle. Some actually like their work. And due to global economies, it easier for me to answer an email or two late at night before bed or on the weekends than having things build up till the next work day. This is why the fed gov rules suck. Everyone is not the same.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84766 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:03 pm to
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I'm not taking the TARP bait.


It's not bait. It's exactly what I was referring to with the second sentence that you have left out.

You'll notice there is an IMO at the end of the sentence you did quote though. I'm not alleging any laws are being broken with regard to workers being forced to do more for less and less pay. God knows they have bought both parties to ensure that never happens. But it's criminal IN MY OPINION
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78206 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:04 pm to
You liberal wankers are all exactly the same. Not an oz. of testosterone, determination, individuality or excellence amongst you. A whole liberal Universe of limp-wristed, effete complainers, all dreaming of a day when no effort whatsoever will be required.

"Gimme shite. Cut my hours. Guarantee my job. Increase my pay. Attend to my needs. More vacation".

Meh Nation.
More Belgian than American.
Unfit for duty.


Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36646 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:04 pm to
Why is it criminal IYO?

Posted by ShubutaMS
5682 posts
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:07 pm to
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I work 70-80 hours a week,



hope remembering this when you are on your deathbed gives you solace
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84766 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Why is it criminal IYO?



Well now we're getting into personal philosophy, which would be a lot easier IRL over beers than on TD.com where these extreme right wing goons will shite all over the board if someone questions their South Louisiana echo chamber.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84766 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Lsupimp


Now that made me laugh
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30145 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:13 pm to
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Cue the American Corporate Oligarchy apologists complaining


Here's my question. Say we reduce our work week by a day here. Reduce works hours per day by an hour or so, give everyone 2 hours lunches, and have 2-3 hour breaks at some point throughout the day, receive 50% more vacation time, more holidays, etc.....at what point does the following happen:

1) Do we start complaining about THAT being too much of a workload and gripe for less work

2) We see a reduction in pay because our output and work responsibilities are non existent

You seem to think employers are obligated to give us compensation for minimal work. Wouldn't surprise me if at some point, people such as yourself would think that if we quit a job, our employer is required to pay us a full salary plus benefits for years because well, it would give everyone a better quality of life.

Work is exactly that...it's WORK. You are paid to perform duties based on your acceptance of that position.

Even still, do you really think people are actually doing something work related all 40 hours of the work week? Sometimes I am, sometimes, I have some down time when business is slow. Sometimes I can cut out early because of it, and sometimes I may have to come in on a weekend to get something done for Monday.

I understand the premise of a better work environment and not allowing work to ruin your private life, but at some point people act like it's their God given right to have money, insurance, 401k, perks, etc... for little to no work.

Be an adult. Make decisions that put you in a position to have a good employer. Otherwise, adapt and adjust until you reach your ideal situation.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
Meine sich're Zuflucht
Member since Jun 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:15 pm to
How can it be criminal? No one is held against their will. No one is forced to work for anyone.

It sounds nice for the government to do things like guarantee you time off or whatever other perks people want, but allowing the government to dictate any aspect of your relationship with your private employer is a dangerous road to start wandering down.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78206 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:15 pm to
I took four weeks of vacation last year BEFORE May was over. I took seven total. I average 4 days of work a week. I have no boss, other than my customers. Thursday I leave for 10 days in Florida with my kids. Next month I'm going to London with my daughter. In July I'm taking my family to Boulder for 10 days. And so forth, as a free man who EARNED the right to control my own schedule.

But here's the deal-I CREATED THAT. I made that happen. I had FREEDOM, choose to get off the clock, risked it all, and set my own freaking course. With no expectation that anybody owed me anything and with no safety net to catch me.

Maybe you should follow a course that will allow you to achieve your goals and dreams. Failing that send me a postcard from France, you whiny little post-American asshat. And I say that most affectionately. I really want that post card.

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48285 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Because I can see outside of my own situation and empathize with others struggles.


I don't get it. If you want to work 40 hours a week, then get a job that works for you hours a week. If you want to work 80 hours a week, then find a job that works 80 hours a week. Neither the US nor France has forced employment, why is the government need to step in and regulate the amount of hours of work or works in a given week or strictly can do after hours?

Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54201 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:20 pm to
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hope remembering this when you are on your deathbed gives you solace


Or working all those extra hours when young and making extra money to invest, in hopes of early retirement and enjoying the golden years of life doing what you want as opposed to working too long just to pay bills, gives him solace.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Have to agree. Spent some time in France and Italy years ago and they do it better imo. Shorter weeks, 2 hour lunches and many businesses in Italy close for 3 hours in the afternoon before opening for an hour or two at the end of the day.


And we are no longer protecting them, and Russia rolls them because they are weak economically and militarily, what will you say then?
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:21 pm to
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You liberal wankers are all exactly the same. Not an oz. of testosterone, determination, individuality or excellence amongst you. A whole liberal Universe of limp-wristed, effete complainers, all dreaming of a day when no effort whatsoever will be required.


Exactly how 'liberals' like Warren Buffet , Steve Jobs, Soros, Ted Turner(?), Bill Gates ,etc...... became so successful. Lazy bastards. "All the same" .
Posted by GoBigOrange86
Meine sich're Zuflucht
Member since Jun 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:23 pm to
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Exactly how 'liberals' like Warren Buffet , Steve Jobs, Soros, Ted Turner(?), Bill Gates ,etc...... became so successful. Lazy bastards. "All the same" .


Yet again we see who the corporatist party of the rich really is.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78206 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:28 pm to
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sugar71


Good to see the racist liberal wankers show up too. What's your fricking racist whine today? Do you need directions on the way to The Sharpton Rally?
Posted by shattersfull
Member since Dec 2013
64 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:28 pm to
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Sucks that you only value money?

I feel sorry for that mentality.


Coming from a guy who only values others money!!!

Interesting.
Posted by shattersfull
Member since Dec 2013
64 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:31 pm to
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but I also expect


Translation. = I believe I am entitled to everything in life.

Here is a clue.

Run your own business. Your thought process on this board indicates you think businesses are run by mean ol people. So start your own.

Life is hard when you are a whiner.
Posted by shattersfull
Member since Dec 2013
64 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:34 pm to
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why is the government need to step in and regulate the amount of hours of work or works in a given week or strictly can do after hours?



Because I am guessing he is young and grew up in the "Everyone gets a ribbon and trophy" generation.


Now they are in the "real world" and its just so hard
H
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9603 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:43 pm to
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Exactly how 'liberals' like Warren Buffet , Steve Jobs, Soros, Ted Turner(?), Bill Gates ,etc...... became so successful. Lazy bastards. "All the same" .


Did Warren Buffet ever give his secretary a raise?

Oh, doesn't he have a whole lot of interest in the railroads that transport oil? And isn't he against the Keystone Pipeline?

He's a regular patriot, that Warren Buffet.
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