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re: Captain America: Winter Soldier ***(SPOILERS)***

Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:22 pm to
they did show the infiniti gauntlet in thor 1, maybe that's what he meant
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:41 am to
Just an update on its gross:

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$200M, as expected, for Captain America: The Winter Soldier today as it parades in with a $26.7M weekend on Easter Sunday and $201M+. It now stands at $586.6M worldwide.


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Marvel’s Captain America 2 has now grossed over $500M. In China alone, it is on the verge of passing $100 million. The sequel, 199% ahead of what the first installment did in its full run of $194M, has already passed the total international box office cumes for Iron Man 2 ($312M) and Iron Man ($267M) as well as Thor ($268M) and it did so in four weeks. In Japan, it grossed $2M, more than doubling the opening weekend of the first installment. It is still No. 1 in Korea four weeks running, too.


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The sequel “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” grossed $26.6-million in its third weekend out to again remain the domestic box-office champ, according to studio estimates released Sunday. Each of Iron Man’s three solo films successfully defended a box-office title, but none accomplished a three-peat.


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So maybe 700-800 million world wide, not bad at all.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:51 am to


This movie deserves all of the praise it receives. It is really that fricking good.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:39 am to
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This movie deserves all of the praise it receives.


Exactly. Always nice when something worthwhile is a big success. Especially someone like Captain America. It firmly plants him as the #2 property behind Iron Man, which really makes him #1 since I doubt we get another solo Iron Man until After Avengers 3. Although Evans isn't long for the character, he's leaving quite the mark.

The international numbers are intriguing not only from the "Captain America" angle, but with the idea that Marvel is really making the MCU a worldwide thing.

There might be a strategy to branch out into true international characters: Black Panther, Sunfire, even someone like Namor could have a more national appeal (but F4 origins I believe). Shang Chi, Justice, Black Knight.... there are options to tweak a lot of characters too like Moondragon or Hellcat.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:39 pm to
Isn't Sunfire a mutant?

I still think Moondragon is Skye from Agents of SHIELD.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Isn't Sunfire a mutant?


He is.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:13 pm to
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Isn't Sunfire a mutant?


Sunspot or Sunfire...one is one isn't right? And I think it's Sunspot in DOFP. If X-Men has both...oh well.
Posted by swagsurfin7
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:13 pm to
I saw this last week & absolutely loved it. The best stand alone Marvel film besides Iron Man. The action was great. Plan on seeing it again for sure.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Sunspot or Sunfire...one is one isn't right? And I think it's Sunspot in DOFP. If X-Men has both...oh well.


Both are. Sunspot is the brazillian one from New Mutants. Sunfire is the japanese one that came along in the 70s.

One of them is currently in the Uncanny Avengers line up, I think.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37228 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:56 pm to
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Both are. Sunspot is the brazillian one from New Mutants. Sunfire is the japanese one that came along in the 70s.

One of them is currently in the Uncanny Avengers line up, I think.


Oh well. Yeah the X-Men always had a lot of International characters, there aren't that many on the Avengers side, or the non-X-Men side.

With the international appeal, it would be smart to develop some of those properties.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:06 pm to
just saw this Saturday....and damn was i blown away. by far the best standalone marvel film to date....and if the rest are gonna be this good, i cannot wait to see them.

and the inscription on the tombstone had me cracking up.

Observations I saw:

1) how they tied in the other movies to this one was awesome. the references to the president from IM 3, the Cameo of the senator from IM2. the references to Banner.....all genius.

2) Nick Fury - you knew he had a presence, but damn they let him be a badass in this film. i loved SLJ as Fury in the other films, but this was above what I expected.

3) Winter Soldier to me, was as well cast and potrayed as Loki - some may disagree, but I loved it.

4) Hydra and Shield - loved how they worked that into the plot, and it made it great.

5) Falcon - was never a fan in the comics, but loved him in the movie - hope to see a lot more of him.

all in all i enjoyed this film and wanted to see it again. hell my wife wants to see it again.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:18 pm to
My opinion on this might be colored by my wife's opinion on this. She was shifting and fidgety the whole movie to the point of distraction. She's never like that in movies.

Afterwards I asked her what the deal was and she basically unloaded on the movie. HATED it. When I mean hated...I mean an utter loathing usually reserved for child rapists.

But I still liked it.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:22 pm to
Thought Captain America 1 was bad, but this movie was awesome.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:23 pm to
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Afterwards I asked her what the deal was and she basically unloaded on the movie. HATED it. When I mean hated...I mean an utter loathing usually reserved for child rapists


Did she say why she hated it or just that she hated it? I'm curious, but I completely understand if you didn't want to push the issue.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115292 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:35 pm to
She had a lot of reasons. She doesn't particularly like action movies that much. When she does, she likes them to have identifiable characters, emotion, heart, some kind of believable love story if possible, high stakes, etc.

She found the movie to be a total bore. She said the action scenes went on way too long and were just one after another. She never felt scared for the characters or gave a shite. No heart or emotion, no love interest. Never felt invested. Just boom boom boom over and over again.

I don't agree, although I do see some of her points.

FYI: My wife isn't even remotely a nerd, and is not into comic books or know the characters. But she liked the first Captain America...a lot more.

We probably should have gone to see Grand Budapest Hotel, because she likes Wes Anderson. I could have seen this with a friend or something.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 3:37 pm
Posted by LE610N
Red Stick
Member since Feb 2013
1199 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:00 pm to
Better late than never.

After the Avengers on repeated viewings I felt Cap didn't really do much so I felt that he almost didn't belong among the others but this movie made me believe that not only is he worthy but now that he is my favorite Avenger; move over Tony Stark.

I heard a lot about the hype/praise this movie was getting and after seeing it twice it is well deserved.

Most of all I was really surprised that the themes this movie touched on, especially for a early summer blockbuster, even more surprising for a "Disney-Marvel" movie. When Zola stated that when you try to take away people's freedom, they resist and fight. But if you make it to where they give up their freedoms willingly, there will be no "resistance". Something I fell is very timely and seeing that in this movie won me over even more.

I felt the action was top notch for a Marvel movie, it was even more visceral than most other action movies IMO. From The car chases to Fury getting sniped in Steve's apartment, this movie did not let up at all.

Also loved the score from Henry Jackman. The winter soldier theme almost reminded me of Han Zimmer's and James Newton Howard's theme for the joker in TDK.

9/10
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:11 pm to
I avoided pretty much all threads, reviews and trailers.

Overall, I really liked the film.

Didn't like Redford simply because I knew instantly with him in the movie, he was going to be the bad guy. Not a huge problem, because he pretty much revealed that pretty quickly.

Knew Fury wasn't dead because a doctor injected him after they stopped resuscitating him. Wish they had clipped that scene.

Also since I read the comic 100 years ago I knew Bucky was the Winter Soldier. Wish I hadn't known that.

None of those are anything but slight niggles.

Oh, the 3-D sucked. Not sure if the 3-D was retro or if it was shot in 3-D but it was so minor as to not be worth the extra money. Spidey 3-D looked top notch but still have no interest in the reboot.

Wonder what the body count was in this movie? I know they tried to play it off that everyone on the ships was Hydra but that would be pretty hard to believe. Seems like there were probably a lot of friendly fire deaths.

GOG looked decent enough in the trailer. I noticed The Collector in the trailer.

What is the release schedule looking like for the next couple of years? Are they still going forward with a Strange movie. Strange was one of my favorite books but mysticism doesn't translate too good to the screen. Probably the reason the knuckleheads destroyed Mandarin.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 10:43 pm to
Completely agree it's a great movie; however, I can't disagree more with your statement regarding Captain America's role in Avengers. He was a major character and was the acknowledged commander in New York.
Posted by LE610N
Red Stick
Member since Feb 2013
1199 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 8:56 am to
Don't get me wrong I know he was a major character but I just feel he wasn't used to his fullest capacity in the Avengers. All he did was amuse Loki in Germany, cool 2 hot heads in a forest, do acrobatic things to get the helicarrier staying afloat, clear a building of Chitari, and fight on the streets and finally got to call the shots at the very end, which I knew was a big deal because he essentially leads the Avengers. So all the more reason when he had that fight with Batroc to prove he was "more than just a shield". Also having TWS fighting him proved an equal challenge that I was glad to see.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98287 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 9:07 am to
Ok. That I can agree with.
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