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re: My feeling on capitalism

Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:22 pm to
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It's not splitting hairs. Corporations don't exist without the government. It's a big distinction.


G, you wouldn't be willing to bestow limited liability to a group of people voluntarily?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9077 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:23 pm to
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Mainly cause they eat shite.


Yeah...and NOT starving.

Do you think starving people in Africa would give a frick if they had to eat a Big Mac everyday?
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:25 pm to
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G, you wouldn't be willing to bestow limited liability to a group of people voluntarily?
I'm pretty sure I don't have the power to bestow such a thing.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:27 pm to
Well, if you can't, and I can't...
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9077 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:30 pm to
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My point is that working to achieve maximum profit doesn't mean you're working for the greater good.


Who's to decide what "the greater good" is if not the very people who CHOOSE to buy their products?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:31 pm to
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greater good.


Such a vague goal that can be said to justify damn near any state action.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27317 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:46 pm to
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People didn't eat NEARLY as well before capitalism. Hell, our "poor" are FAT. That has never happened in human history. Another thing about capitalism...you can CHOOSE not to do business w/ those companies (in the sense that you don't have to buy their products off the shelves. We are forced to do business w/ them through govt guarantees and subsidies). Other companies supply foods which don't have those chemicals, right?

Get outta here with that rational bullshite. The world is far worse off than ever before because of greed and profit. Eliminate these two evils and people would bust arse everday at work just to help their fellow man. Hell, I might even invent some shite if I didn't have to worry about selling it and dealing with those worrisome profits. frick that. Mo money, mo problems.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5179 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:46 pm to
drivel
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:47 pm to
I find I get more things accomplished when I have less motivation to accomplish things.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9077 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:55 pm to
I really wish more people in our society would realize that in order for someone to fulfill their "greed" in a freer market, a company MUST satisfy their customers AND be efficient. Both huge benefits to society.

On the other hand, all politicians need to do to fulfill their greed is steal more from productive individuals.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:56 pm to
Capitalism with a well defined set of rules that are meant to encourage innovation and competition is a wonderful system. I think we could have less government that was more effective if we didn't try to fight all government all the time and instead embraced common sense rules.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27317 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:58 pm to
As a wise man once said,"Greed is good."
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6304 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:59 pm to
Maybe it was better when 98% of people were in abject poverty equally.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9077 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:01 pm to
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if we didn't try to fight all government all the time


Unless I'm just misunderstanding you, I don't know of a single politician and very few individuals that are for this.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:02 pm to
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Hell, our "poor" are FAT.


In our case it's an indication of a problem, not a triumph.

When you have the majority of the nation eating diets of fake food-like products it causes a number of issues, one of them being weight gain.

Weight is not an indication of health.

quote:

you can CHOOSE not to do business w/ those companies (in the sense that you don't have to buy their products off the shelves. We are forced to do business w/ them through govt guarantees and subsidies)


Which is why any capitalist had better at least be an AnCap.

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Other companies supply foods which don't have those chemicals, right?


Organic farmers have to pay for certification, while big GMO farms get subsidies. It's not fair for pricing. Yes, I get that government is to blame for the subsidies.

But understand that big business and government work together.

When the government banned or tried banning wood burning stoves everyone got mad at the government for regulating, but the truth is the energy companies wanted the ban so everyone would have to get on the energy grid.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9077 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:09 pm to
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Hell, our "poor" are FAT.
quote:

Weight is not an indication of health.


No doubt. But look at the context in which I wrote that statement. I was saying that our "poor" are clearly not starving....which before us, never happened in human history.

And the rest of your post, I agree w/.

So, how was my post about capitalism being moral and a huge benefit to society "regurgitated programming"?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27317 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:09 pm to
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In our case it's an indication of a problem, not a triumph. When you have the majority of the nation eating diets of fake food-like products it causes a number of issues, one of them being weight gain.

bullshite. You can eat healthy and cheap. Most people that are poor are poor because they make poor life choices. They enjoy the easy road and instant gratification. Although not true 100% of the time. I'll bet it is 98%+. Most seem to think they are smarter than they are and fail to heed advice given to them by more intelligent successful people. Others just don't GAF. Either way, you can't legislate personal responsibility. Your telling me a poor person will choose baked chicken and steamed broccoli over a big mac and coke if the healthier option was cheaper? Bull fricking shite. I see mf'ers every single day go into my wife's store and bitch about a $3 copay on an essential med that they don't get then turn around and spend $5 on a coke and a fricking king sized snickers. You mf'ers are clueless.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73403 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:16 pm to
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You mf'ers are clueless.
You know this is the poster formerly known as Mograyback, isn't he the one that said you would be put out of business by WebMD?
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36744 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:27 pm to
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As a wise man once said,"Greed is good."


Yeah and several wise men ran our countries economy into the ground because at the end of the day they could give two shits less about anything except their bottom line short term.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73403 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:29 pm to
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Yeah and several wise men ran our countries economy into the ground because at the end of the day they could give two shits less about anything except their bottom line short term
Who were these dastardly men?
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