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re: Spin off: Name me some realistic mid-late rnd centers that we could possibly nab
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:43 am to Nado Jenkins83
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:43 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Name: Marcus Martin
Position: Center
School: USC
Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 320 pounds
Projected round: 2nd-3rd
40-yard dash time: 5.36
Bench press reps: 23
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 9:50 am
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:48 am to bountyhunter
basing this off sedrick ellis?
How many lsu busts have we had.
This shite gets old
How many lsu busts have we had.
This shite gets old
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:50 am to goatmilker
Solid list and ratings Bio links there as well
Mayock's Top 5
1. Marcus Martin, USC
2. Weston Richburg, Colorado State
3. Travis Swanson, Arkansas
4. Bryan Stork, Florida State
5. Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma
Mayock's Top 5
1. Marcus Martin, USC
2. Weston Richburg, Colorado State
3. Travis Swanson, Arkansas
4. Bryan Stork, Florida State
5. Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:51 am to Nado Jenkins83
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basing this off sedrick ellis?
How many lsu busts have we had.
This shite gets old
that image is of..OT brown
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:51 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Nado Jenkins83
Really?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:53 am to htran90
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that image is of..OT brown
To be fair I edited that in after he posted probably. Yeah, USC O-Lineman = *cringe*
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:54 am to bountyhunter
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To be fair I edited that in after he posted probably. Yeah, USC O-Lineman = *cringe*
my mistake.
We can go on a list of USC Busts/underperformers
there are definitely a lot.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:57 am to Nado Jenkins83
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basing this off sedrick ellis?
How many lsu busts have we had.
This shite gets old
At least know what you are talking about.
They took Charles Brown in the second round. That's two USC linemen in the last 7 years.
The Saints have taken a grand total of 2 LSU players in the first 2 rounds in the whole history of the franchise. One was Dalton Hilliard and the other was Devery Henderson. I would say that both of them contributed far more than the USC guys.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:00 am to htran90
I'm not normally biased against/for schools either... but something about USC and both offensive/defensive linemen does not seem to work out for us. When they drafted Ellis I knew he was going to fall flat, but a lot of teams got burned by the 'roided-up stable of Pete Carroll's USC team. The players get drafted, quit using PEDs, and then magically start to suck. It's like magic! 
To be honest though I think Martin will be pretty good in the NFL, but the issue with PAC12 linemen (both Offensive and Defensive) is there is not much emphasis on that position in that conference. SEC is all about the big guys up front, and by the time they get to the NFL they are either greatly experienced and transition or their knees are shot from playing in the bedlam.
To be honest though I think Martin will be pretty good in the NFL, but the issue with PAC12 linemen (both Offensive and Defensive) is there is not much emphasis on that position in that conference. SEC is all about the big guys up front, and by the time they get to the NFL they are either greatly experienced and transition or their knees are shot from playing in the bedlam.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 10:04 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:03 am to htran90
10 yrs of USC OL drafted just for reference (Yr/Rd/Pick/Overall)-
C 2013 4 24 121 Khaled Holmes Colts
2007 2 27 59 Ryan Kalil Panthers
G 2008 2 8 39 Chilo Rachal 49ers
2006 2 9 41 Taitusi (Deuce) Lutui Cardinals
2006 7 9 217 Fred Matua Lions
T 2012 1 4 4 Matt Kalil Vikings
2011 1 9 9 Tyron Smith Cowboys
2010 2 32 64 Charles Brown Saints
2008 1 21 21 Sam Baker Falcons
2006 2 7 39 Winston Justice Eagles
2004 2 20 52 Jacob Rogers Cowboys
C 2013 4 24 121 Khaled Holmes Colts
2007 2 27 59 Ryan Kalil Panthers
G 2008 2 8 39 Chilo Rachal 49ers
2006 2 9 41 Taitusi (Deuce) Lutui Cardinals
2006 7 9 217 Fred Matua Lions
T 2012 1 4 4 Matt Kalil Vikings
2011 1 9 9 Tyron Smith Cowboys
2010 2 32 64 Charles Brown Saints
2008 1 21 21 Sam Baker Falcons
2006 2 7 39 Winston Justice Eagles
2004 2 20 52 Jacob Rogers Cowboys
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:08 am to Nado Jenkins83
I think he's referring more to Charles Brown.
ETA: Late on that one...
We struck out on the last USC OL we took, as well as the last Center we drafted. We're due for some luck, right?
ETA: Late on that one...
We struck out on the last USC OL we took, as well as the last Center we drafted. We're due for some luck, right?
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:17 am to mm2316
hard for me to call any 5th Rd pick a bust (Tennant). 3 years and 36 games is prolly closer to 5th Rd average than fail.
Bentley, Hilgenberg, & Edelman were all decent Center draft picks.
There's some history to be found in positions from different schools but I've never subscribed to the don't draft player X from school Z cuz they don't produce from there.
Bentley, Hilgenberg, & Edelman were all decent Center draft picks.
There's some history to be found in positions from different schools but I've never subscribed to the don't draft player X from school Z cuz they don't produce from there.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:50 am to blueslover
I agree that it's hard to call him a bust being that he was drafted in the 5th round, but he was the 2nd rated Center in the draft, and projected to go as high as the 3rd. Out of those 36 games played I doubt many, if any, were played on anything but Special Teams.
I definitely agree with this, which is probably the worst argument around draft time along with "Look at the teams that guy played against, he didn't even play in the SEC!".
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I've never subscribed to the don't draft player X from school Z cuz they don't produce from there.
I definitely agree with this, which is probably the worst argument around draft time along with "Look at the teams that guy played against, he didn't even play in the SEC!".
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:54 am to mm2316
I played in the SEC, so there is some bias on my side, sure. Not particularly a "school" bias, but I firmly believe the SEC is the hardest football conference to play in.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:03 am to bountyhunter
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I played in the SEC, so there is some bias on my side, sure. Not particularly a "school" bias, but I firmly believe the SEC is the hardest football conference to play in.
There's no arguing that, but it gets old hearing arguments against certain prospects because they played in the ACC, PAC 12, or BIG 10 and not in the SEC. I understand concerns about prospects from D2 schools, but to act like good prospects don't come from conferences outside of the SEC is just dumb. Not saying that's your POV though.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:06 pm to GOON
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If either Martin or Richburg are there at our pick in the third, I think we definitely consider it.
I think they not only consider it but, in fact, pull the trigger. The team is going to hit CB or WR in the 1st and go after whichever position they didn't fill with the pick in the 2nd. That fills two of the most obvious needs positions. It all becomes need/value after that and Center is right up there.
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