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re: Is Monty Really Learning?

Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:37 pm to
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Last year he could not create a shot for himself on a regular basis. Many analysts doubted we would see that from him for a few years, if ever. That he's doing it now at high volume AND high efficiency is astounding.

His ceiling is limitless from what we've seen over 100+ games.


He had ball skills, but was still adjusting to his huge growth spurt. The kid was actually lauded for his ball skills since he started out as a guard, so I am not sure what your point in saying he struggled with them was other than it has taken some time for him to adjust to his size.

His ceiling is pretty damn high, but that wasn't something I questioned. I simply stated that I don't think there is any reason to guarantee that Monty or his staff are so great at developing with him. They have definitely had an effect, but I don't think they deserve as much credit as some say. I think it has more to do with Davis getting acclimated with his body and improving coordination after his growth spurt which takes a little time.

This kid was a guard until his last year and a half in high school. Growing 7 inches in a year is tough. I did it, and it affected my coordination for quite some time and I wasn't a prep b-ball star.

In the end, I think the coaching staff deserves credit, but if they are so great, why aren't the others like Rivers, Aminu, and Miller developing like many would expect?

Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:38 pm to
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Sorry for trying really hard to be the antagonist, bro


FIFY
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:40 pm to
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FIFY


Being in the majority on a message board does not make you a protagonist. It makes you a parrot.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21590 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:41 pm to
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Being in the majority on a message board does not make you a protagonist. It makes you a parrot


So what does that make me? An eagle? Or a Pelican?
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:41 pm to
You crack me up.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:42 pm to
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:45 pm to
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Well-done, sire.

ETA: Not sure why the image is huge when I post it in a quote.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 5:08 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:49 pm to
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so I am not sure what your point in saying he struggled with them was 


That he did not flash those ball skills at UK. He did not flash them last year in the pros. Saying he was (a lightly regarded) guard in high school, so he has NBA level ball skills is reach IMO.

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 I simply stated that I don't think there is any reason to guarantee that Monty or his staff are so great at developing with him. 


I have plenty of Monty issues. And I dont think you can attribute Davis's progression solely to him and the staff.

But Davis being a number 1, volume scorer was not ordained because he played guard in HS or in a limited system at UK. Not running enough plays for a guy is not the same as being a legit foundation of an offense.

It was doubtful from almost every reasonable and knowledgeable perspective that Davis would likely reach that level. That he is there in 100 pro games is remarkable. He deserves most of credit for that. And the coaches deserve some as well. They have managed him as well as can be hoped for, all other issues aside.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 4:54 pm to
It's a huge image. To scale it down you have to put " width=XXX" after the .jpg part like

.jpg width=450[/img]

I also did not know how appropriate Jive Turkey was for heady until I looked it up in urban dictionary. It's just a word I remembered as common "term of endearment" from old sitcoms like Good Times and the Jeffersons.

quote:

jive turkey
a. One who speaks as though they know what they're talking about...though they do not. b. a bullshitter.

jive turkey
its an old 70's term used to describe someone who thinks they're kool or hott but really isn't.

jiveturkey
Slang term for an individual who is prone to exaggerating the truth greatly or an outright liar. Used predominately in 1970's
- "Wow Im so cool!"

- "Man you're nothing but a jiveturkey"

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