re: Draft Talk Big Board

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As rankings start to come into focus, there are several intriguing top guys who would not be shockers if available at #27-
Mosley

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what makes you think this dude falls to 27? He's becoming more of a top 10 lock.

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what makes you think this dude falls to 27? He's becoming more of a top 10 lock.

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What dude? I wasn't forwarding any particular player falling. Just when ya come up with a Top 15 you can usually expect a few surprisers to slip 10 spots or to the 2nd Rd. LBs, Safeties, & TEs are frequently the most common fallers.

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Gilbert over Verrett

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yeah, I don't put a firm handle on the rankings at all yet. No surprise if Gilbert ends up the top one.

Tre Mason is WAY too high

updates after the Sr Bowl...

Top 200

*Javedon Clowney DE South Carolina (X)
Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M
*Sammie Watkins WR Clemson
*Greg Robinson OT Auburn
Anthony Barr LB UCLA
*Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville
*Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M
Khalil Mack LB Buffalo
*Blake Bortles QB Central Florida
CJ Mosely LB Alabama
Taylor Lewan OT Michigan
*Mike Evans WR Texas A&M
*Eric Ebron TE North Carolina
Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State
*Marqise Lee WR Southern California (X)
*Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix FS Alabama (O)
Zach Martin OT Notre Dame (OG)
*Kelvin Benjamin WR Florida State
*Cyrus Kouandjio OT Alabama
Louis Nix DT Notre Dame (X)
Derek Carr QB Fresno State
Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota (O)
Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
*Kony Ealy DE Missouri
*Timmie Jernigan DT Florida State
*Stephen Tuitt DE Notre Dame (X)
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*Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech
*Calvin Pryor FS Louisville
Aaron Donald DT Pittsburgh
*Ryan Shazier LB Ohio State
*Allen Robinson WR Penn State
Dee Ford OLB Auburn
*David Yankey OG Stanford (OT)
Austin Seferin-Jenkins TE Washington (O)
*Scott Crichton DE Oregon State
Jason Verrett CB TCU
*Davante Adams WR Fresno State
Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois
*Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State
*Ka'Deem Carey RB Arizona (X)
*Marcus Roberson CB Florida (X)
Kyle Van Noy LB BYU
Travis Swanson C Arkansas
*Odell Beckham WR LSU
Cyril Richardson OG Baylor (OT)
*Tre Mason RB Auburn
*Bradley Roby CB Ohio State (O)
*Kelcy Quarles DT South Carolina
Carlos Hyde RB Ohio State (O)
*Tiny Richardson OT Tennessee
Will Sutton DT Arizona State
Trent Murphy DE Stanford (OLB)
Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
*Xavier Su'a-Filo OG UCLA
Lamarcus Joyner CB Florida State
Trevor Reilly OLB Utah (DE)
Zach Mettenberger QB LSU (X)
Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas (X)

I always draw a line at the Saints pick number then look up from there as to who might fall and who ya might hope for.

from this list- Mosley, Ebron, from Dix to Tuitt most any of'em

know that discussion has gone on. simply this...

only 3-4OLBs get a real premium push on their value. Any ILB or 4-3 OLB commonly fall in drafts. It's just the position impact/value.

So that factor, then Mosley is no sure fire top LB in this draft. More have Barr ranked higher. Just as many have Mack as high or higher than him. So it's a devalued position for the 1st Rd and Mosley might be the 3rd ranked one overall.

Number of LBs drafted before #27 by year-
2013 1
2012 1
2011 2
2010 3
2009 5
2008 2
2007 3

I'd be stunned if mosley fell out of top 20. Maybe barr pushes him out of top 10-12 range but that doesn't mean he falls out of top 20 still.

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The question is would he be a MUST PICK on value selection?

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Not only would he be a must pick, if we passed on him, i would kick loomis in the nuts and join team lester.

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What previous college players did you want more than the Saints pick that actually would have been better

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Clay Matthews

And this is just me talking, maybe the homer in me talking, BUT for what the Saints need and where he is slated to go JARVIS LANDRY should be drafted by the Saints.

I don't understand how he isn't ranked higher.

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I don't understand how he isn't ranked higher.

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guys that aren't big and don't have great times (4.53) don't get premium value.

I do think he could have a more impressive pro career than college. He does have the very most important ingredient for a receiver IMO- great hands.

A little more girth without losing speed and I could see some Anquan Boldin potential (a #54 pick for the same reasons).