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re: Voter fraud: We got proof it's easy
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:10 am to davesdawgs
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:10 am to davesdawgs
I personally witnessed these frauds in La. elections. The Teachers Union leader came to my mother's Assisted Living Senior Citizens home with 50 pre-voted Democrat absentee ballots. They called a meeting mid=morning in the dining hall to get all the old people to vote by signing the form. It was all Democrat, no Republican at all. Some were senile and did not know what they were doing. My mother objected and asked them to leave,they did,but with Dem. voted absentee ballots,probably about 30-40. I also saw the same teachers union leader go get the Headstart vans from the director and go out to the sweet potato farm to pick up 40 Mexicans to go down and vote Democrat with a little piece of paper. I tried to talk to some of them and they could not speak English and were all from Mexico. They had been registered all in 2 houses where they slept. All voted for Obama and Landrieu. This could all be stopped with a photo ID. All fraud votes for Democrats,thats why Dem.'s oppose an ID to vote. I also saw where the Union leader had a plant working at the polls and near the end of the day, union family members came and voted late in the name of someone who had not voted that day by 5:00 or so. They voted dead people, those in jail or prison, or those out of town,etc. The Dem.party poll watcher gave the name to the union leader to give to his wife,daughters,family members to add to the Democrat vote. They voted twice. I saw it with my own eyes. They don't want this stopped. The Democratic candidate for the Senate beat the Republican by 50 votes that day and I personally saw about 100 votes stolen by fraud with my own eyes.
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:15 am to Poodlebrain
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Just because there is no evidence that any past presidential election outcome was determined by fraudulent votes
the 1960 presidential election - see illinois
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:21 am to SpidermanTUba
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People who fix state elections do it by committing fraud AFTER votes are cast, not before
very true
except there are tons of people who vote twice (really not hard to do), illegals vote, people from outside cities and towns vote for those elections.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:35 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:Joseph Stalin said it better, "Those who vote decide nothing, those who count the vote decide everything." You could amend it slightly, and it would also be true. Those who pay taxes decide nothing, those who collect taxes decide everything.
People who fix state elections do it by committing fraud AFTER votes are cast, not before. Do you honestly think it makes more sense to pay a 10,000 people a few bucks each to put their own freedom on the line and vote illegally - or to pay one guy a lot of money to break into the ballot box and stuff it, or rig the counting machine?
Sorry for the minor hijack.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 3:35 pm to Vegas Bengal
I never stated any such thing.
I only pointed to what J.C. stated, “ there will be signs in the moon & stars before I return.
Good way to run the facts that 97 percent of a sting operation was successful.
I only pointed to what J.C. stated, “ there will be signs in the moon & stars before I return.
Good way to run the facts that 97 percent of a sting operation was successful.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 3:51 pm to TupeloTiger
Nice post TT, we all know the democrats are cheating which is why the don't want to change the laws.
When you have no integrity, there are no limits.
When you have no integrity, there are no limits.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 4:00 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
quote:You could have video evidence that Cuyahoga county was ballot stuffed and these dipshits would deny it had and impact.
Nice post TT, we all know the democrats are cheating which is why the don't want to change the laws.
When you have no integrity, there are no limits.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 4:10 pm to germandawg
quote:Did you read the report?
So it is easy, huh? How many people were involved in these 61 "instances"?
All your questions will find answers there.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 4:18 pm to LSUnKaty
quote:Clearly not.
Did you read the report?
All your questions will find answers there.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:02 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
3 down votes, I bet they're illegal voters.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:24 am to S.E.C. Crazy
quote:We have a company - Scytl - that will now remotely "count" the votes of our "elections," (both local and national) electronically with little or no accountability. Why do we concern ourselves over whether or not a voter has I.D.?
Voter fraud: We got proof it's easy
Voter fraud: We got proof it's easy | National Review Online.com.
Just how many votes by fraud is ok ? Maybe 3-5 votes, or what would you be comfortable with in voter fraud ? That would be a limited amount, but how about 61 votes by fraud, would you think that could be to many in one local election ?
Seems like that should be the least of our worries.
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 12:35 am
Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:59 am to S.E.C. Crazy
The primary purpose of voter ID laws is to tilt the vote in favor of Republican candidates.
Republicans have admitted this on more than one occasion.
LINK
Republicans have admitted this on more than one occasion.
LINK
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 1:00 am
Posted on 1/17/14 at 2:27 am to SpidermanTUba
Ugh, yea, by getting rid of illegal voters and nursing home votes by people who ae not cognizant.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:16 am to Jbird
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Voter fraud: We got proof it's easy
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The obvious fallacy here is the presumption that simply because a crime is easy - people will do it. There's very little to personally gain from casting a ballot you aren't entitled to cast.
For the voter sure, for the politician it could mean the difference between winning and losing.
Seriously...if a politician is able to put together a criminal conspiracy requiring millions of people being involved without a trace of evidence being left behind that person does not need to be president....that person should be monarch for life....that person is a fricking logistics genius and is someone we should embrace...that person is worthy of the praise that exhalted leaders like Hitler and Jesus recieve. Of course that person does not exist but let's pretend he does so we can spend an inordinate amount of time and energy correcting a situations that does not exist.
At this point I say frick it...pass the voter id laws. Hell ya'll (conservatives) used to support poll taxes and exams to keep minoritites from excercising their rights as citizens and those minorities have proven time and again to overcome ya'lls failed attempts to disenfranchise them. They will do so this time also and their resolve to stand in opposition to the people who would make it more difficult for them to vote will be greater than ever. And then, in the biggest twist of irony ever, ya'll will have the audacity, the un-mitigated gall, to ask why these folks refuse to support your cause.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:21 am to Poodlebrain
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The outcome of the 2000 presidential election would have been different if there were just 1,000 additional votes for Al Gore in Florida. And it was no surprise to anyone that the election was going to be decided in Florida and a few other toss up states. It would not have taken near the widespread conspiracy you suggest would be necessary to change the outcome.
Just because there is no evidence that any past presidential election outcome was determined by fraudulent votes doesn't mean it can't occur in future elections. Our presidential election is really more than 50 smaller elections to decide electors. They are much easier to fix than a single large election. Fixing a state or local election can be done with a higher degree of certainty with a smaller number of fraudulent votes.
SO what...in the best case scenario you would have had to have had at least 250 working together in concerted effort to commit a federal crime and for that crime to have been successful they would have had to done this without leaving a trace of evidence and none of them ever saying a word to anyone.....and this would be an easy thing to pull off first of all AND second of all if they were able to do this does anyone seriously thing that requiring an ID, something that every underaged college kid in American is able to obtain, would have stopped it? How fricking stupid do you have to be to believe this is a problem??? Wy not just be honest, like many GOP politicians have been, and admit that the whole issue is about limiting the number of minorities willing to make the effort to vote.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:24 am to HonoraryCoonass
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We have seen the amount of pushback from the dims for requiring folks to obtain a simple ID. Now imagine convincing the entire nation they need to get fingerprinted!
The NSA would sure love it.
My thoughts exactly....seriously bad idea....who wants the government to have the fingerprints of every voter in the nation...and it would also make it easy to determine who voted for who....
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:32 am to germandawg
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.who wants the government to have the fingerprints of every voter in the nation...and it would also make it easy to determine who voted for who....
This will be in NSA database soon and if you don't vote correctly your Obamaphone will get turned off.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:34 am to germandawg
quote:Link please? So only minorities are too stupid to obtain a valid ID?
like many GOP politicians have been, and admit that the whole issue is about limiting the number of minorities willing to make the effort to vote.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:40 am to germandawg
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like many GOP politicians have been, and admit that the whole issue is about limiting the number of minorities willing to make the effort to vote.
Yes and those stinking Republicans also want to stop people from reading because they make people show ID's to get library cards!
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:50 am to Jbird
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Link please? So only minorities are too stupid to obtain a valid ID?
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Of course I know none of these are legitimate and there is no way in the world that the GOP would seek ways to make it more difficult for people who do not support their cause to vote. That is simply beyond the pale of reason and it is all about preventing a mass conspiracy by a criminal mastermind by requiring a piece of paper that any college kid can obtain.
Why does a person have to be stupid to have a hard time getting an ID? There are all kinds of reasons it is more difficult for the working poor to do so than it is for a small business owner. Hell it is more difficult to get a hair cut if you work for someone else than it is if you are self employed....
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