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re: Star Trek: TOS Watchers - S2 - Return to Tomorrow *Page 14*

Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:43 pm to
Mirror, Mirror is kind of a classic Trek. I love the idea of the parallel universe. I imagine that its much easier for the "good" universe people to blend in than the other way around. Would have been cool if they go back to their own universe and find the evil versions have taken complete control. Uhura's uniform in the parallel world was much better, would like to have seen some of the others

Which reminds me, seems like quality from Big Gene's casting coach gone down from season 1. Maybe he got serious with Majel?
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:59 pm to
Na. Plenty of hotties from here to the end.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:36 am to
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Maybe he got serious with Majel?


He made an honest woman of her in '69 ( ) - but, I don't think he was the only one with an eye for the ladies - upon hindsight, Shatner may have been cycling some of his many, many girlfriends through the casting office, too.

And yeah - there are plenty of babes - just in Season 2, we have Valora Normand and a 19-year old Teri Garr (again with the ) to go, just off the top of my head.

This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 7:37 am
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:40 am to
One of the most memorable episodes in Star Trek, and another of my favorites.

Its a shame we didn't see more of the landing party's counterparts on the Enterprise. I found it interesting that Mirror Spock referred to Mirror McCoy as sentimental and soft - traits you wouldn't expect on that ship.

Nice touch with Spock having a Vulcan bodyguard. They must be some bad mfers in this universe, from the look on Sulu's face after Spock's threat. Perhaps the Romulans were the ones who clung to peace in this timeline.

The goatee has become a running gag in spoofs, but it does work very well. Its so different as to be a shock when you see it, but its really not a bad look for Spock.

McCoy risking himself to save Mirror Spock.

I wonder what became of the original universe Tantalus Field?

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:02 am to
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One of the most memorable episodes in Star Trek, and another of my favorites.


I'm here as well. I guess when we wrap this up and Season 3, we'll top some Top 5 or Top 10 lists, or maybe just do a Top 5 for each season - it is hard to imagine most fans not having this one highly rated.

One of the most creative "bottle" shows in television history.
Posted by gjackx
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:13 am to
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I'm here as well. I guess when we wrap this up and Season 3, we'll top some Top 5 or Top 10 lists, or maybe just do a Top 5 for each season


I'm down. Why wait?
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:44 pm to
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I had no idea that there are a lot of books based on this. Anyone read any of them? 


I've read the "Shatnerverse" mirror books. They theorized the movie First Contact was the point of divergence between the timelines. In the Prime universe, Cochrane kept his knowledge of the Borg to himself. In the Mirror universe, he made it public, leading to a more militarized alliance between the humans and Vulcans which eventually became the Empire.
Posted by gjackx
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:09 pm to
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I've read the "Shatnerverse" mirror books. They theorized the movie First Contact was the point of divergence between the timelines. In the Prime universe, Cochrane kept his knowledge of the Borg to himself. In the Mirror universe, he made it public, leading to a more militarized alliance between the humans and Vulcans which eventually became the Empire.

That's actually a very cool premise for why things went in the two different directions, like they did.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 1:53 pm to
This is probably my favorite episode.

1. Spock and that beard. As Kirk said in the end, it looked more fitting of him than did the regular universe look. That beard was bad arse.

2. Too bad we never got to see footage of the mirror crew in action on the Enterprise. Would've been fun to see the reaction of the crew when Kirk Mirror ordered them to blast the cities. Or how they treated women. We were denied that pleasure.

3. The total shock when they beam up catches everyone, including the audience, by surprise. Sort of like when Heston sees his first ape in POTA.

4. Pretty philosophical episode when you think about it. Delved into man as a barbarian. Does he need to be civilized to enjoy progress? Was there such a thing as morality in the mirror universe when everyone lived by kill or be killed?

5. Mireau (sp?) Wow. Just wow. She was probably my favorite Kirk babe. Definitely the sexiest and the hottest in my opinion.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:56 am to
Weekly bump!
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:38 pm to
(Sorry about that guys - I've been dealing with some stuff - some really good and really bad.)

*THE DEADLY YEARS*



The Enterprise encounters members of an experimental colony who have aged, rapidly, beyond their chronological years. Only after returning to the ship do they realize that the entire landing party is afflicted with the same ailment - with the curious exception of Chekov.

It is a race against the clock to stop Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty from dying of old age.

Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:23 am to
Seem to recall an almost noticeably ugly chick in this episode. Must have been a family member of some producer.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:36 am to
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Seem to recall an almost noticeably ugly chick in this episode. Must have been a family member of some producer.




Beverly Washburn had been a child actor -

With Lou Costello:



She was in a lot of things as a kid in the 1950s - Shane, Greatest Show on Earth, etc.

The problem was, in this episode, she was competing with:



Sarah Marshall - - as Dr. Wallace
Posted by gjackx
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 2:24 pm to
I loved the acting like old men that the guys do in this one. Classic
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:00 am to
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I loved the acting like old men that the guys do in this one. Classic


De was particularly good in his old man persona (at age 47).



He, more or less, revisited this role 20 years later in the pilot episode of another series (at age 67):

Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:39 am to
Bones was an old curmudgeon even before the virus.
Posted by gjackx
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:54 am to
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He, more or less, revisited this role 20 years later in the pilot episode of another series (at age 67):


Admiral Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy: Well, this is a new ship. But she's got the right name. Now, you remember that, you hear?

Lt. Commander Data: I will, sir.

Admiral Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy: You treat her like a lady. And she'll always bring you home.

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:30 pm to
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Admiral Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy: Well, this is a new ship. But she's got the right name. Now, you remember that, you hear?

Lt. Commander Data: I will, sir.

Admiral Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy: You treat her like a lady. And she'll always bring you home.



Best scene in TNG.

Second best is:

COMPUTER: Please enter programme.

SCOTT: The android at the bar said you could show me my old ship. Let me see it.

COMPUTER: Insufficient data. Please specify parameters.

SCOTT: The Enterprise. Show me the Bridge of the Enterprise, you chattering piece of

COMPUTER: There have been five Federation ships with that name. Please specify by registry number.

SCOTT: NCC One Seven Oh One. No bloody A, B, C, or D.

COMPUTER: Programme complete. Enter when ready.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 8:21 am to
This was a fun episode that gets overlooked a lot when I'm choosing one to watch.

at Chekov's reaction to the body.

The makeup was very well done, and so was the acting.

It was painful watching Kirk's mind deteriorate to point of being relieved. Well done by Shatner.

Great payoff at the end when Kirk runs to the bridge to save the day.

"What a stupid place to hang a mirror!". I've found myself using this line quite a bit since watching the episode.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 8:41 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:22 pm to
*I, MUDD*



The return of Harcourt Fenton "Harry" Mudd (by the inimitable Roger C. Carmel) brings peril to the Enterprise crew. As the figurehead king of a colony of busybody robots, Mudd thinks the Enterprise is his ticket back to civilization.

Can Kirk and crew work their android killing magic and take back the ship?

Oh, and the Andrece twins (Alice series)?



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