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re: BOIL has become predictable

Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:56 am to
Posted by Ole War Skule
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:56 am to
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Skule, your 21's are being bid up to .30 already. 900 at .24 and 1700 at .30.



yeah, I'm watching that...finally a trade at .26, now at .29-.34

funny to be hoping for my UGAZ position to fall so my put will pay

If things continue this way, I'll probably sell 1/2 once I get good profit and gamble the balance for further gains
Posted by Ole War Skule
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:01 am to
quote:

I feel like a drug addict watching you guys play with options.



I'm very new to this and not risking big money, but the excitement/stress is definitely addictive...I'm not the right person for this type of trading I think

I've got a meeting in 45 minutes and need to cancel it so I can stare at the wall of numbers and graphs on my screen
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:02 am to
Broke .06 lower.

Skule, you're on the right track, short for the next three weeks and try to get 3 out of 4, including today. Long for the winter, and load up on cheap longs the same day you sell your shorts.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:02 am to
I never go in to the office until after the Thursday drama is over.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:03 am to
Oct .07 lower.
Posted by Ole War Skule
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Oct .07 lower.



where are you looking at these numbers? I"m at CMEGroup

which is delayed...Fidelity doesn't seem to have these prices
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 9:07 am
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:10 am to
UNG is already 100% NOV, not that it matters with OCT expiring tomorrow, hoping they will move hand in hand
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:10 am to
My future's account. UNG traders mostly run off of a 15 minute delay. You can see UNG react slowly.

I can't give you my trading account's real time link, but I'm betting you'll enjoy this link:

LINK
Posted by Ole War Skule
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:12 am to
yeah...I had found that...love the countdown clock
feel like I"m at an execution

ETA: make that 'in an execution'
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 9:14 am
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:15 am to
UNG traders will trade today off of Oct and the report. As the day goes on they will look towards Nov. That's where I made my mistakes previously. I sold my shorts, and left money on the table. As the day went on the shorts became more valuable because of the roll.

They're in Nov at $3.96, and Nov is at $3.89.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:30 am to
We should be good. Really good. 97 baby.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:32 am to
21 puts crashing...14-.23 from .30
a trade at .20

WOW...I placed a limit at .2 to get out even..the whole board changed from 14-23 to 10-16

this is nuts..how the hell can my little trade change the freakin' board that much

if you still like the 21s, you can get thenm at .13 now
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 9:39 am
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:36 am to
10 minute delay on future's board. Give it until 9:41 to see the real direction.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:41 am to
Weird deal. I'm going to wait it out for now.
Posted by Ole War Skule
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:44 am to
I cancelled my .20 order...pointless now that price shot right through it to .13. UNG seems to stabilized a bit at 21.1 or so
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:48 am to
There was huge volume moving into UNG right at 9:30.

OCT expiration has got to be a major factor too...
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 9:50 am
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:50 am to
yeah, I see that, pushed price up immediately... I'm new to this, but geez, with a 97 injection, that doesn't make sense to me...how much higher could the market could have expected
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:54 am to
The dollar is down today and so is equities market. Time to recover tomorrow maybe.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:04 am to
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The dollar is down today
Where do you see that? Everything I see shows the dollar is stronger against all the major currencies except for the Swiss franc and Canadian dollar.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:28 am to
The November contract is down a nickel and has barely moved since the report was released, yet UNG is trading up to yesterday's close.

edit - okay down 4 cents (3.7 to be exact)... still
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 10:31 am
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