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re: BOIL has become predictable
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:05 am to L S Usetheforce
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:05 am to L S Usetheforce
OK. I am in Iowa though. NO is someplace I've wanted to visit. Maybe we'll eventually play in football again.
It would be nice top play when Iowa has a decent team this time though.
It would be nice top play when Iowa has a decent team this time though.
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:07 am to Iowa Golfer
Im in college station let's meet in Kansas... Or Oklahoma....flights to Dallas may be same price Lmao....
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:31 am to L S Usetheforce
So you would anticipate DGAZ moving down until about WED/THUR next week then skyrocketing off of the weekly storage report?
I'm trying to decide whether to lock in gains and reposition or just let it ride...
I'm trying to decide whether to lock in gains and reposition or just let it ride...
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 5:26 pm to Iowa Golfer
IG, I get the aversion to trading options on an ETF, but wouldn't this have been just as much a rollercoaster if you were short August/September futures?
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 5:32 pm to sneakytiger
I don't think so. The futures price is the future's price. The etf owned the same future's contract, but didn't necessarily always track. One less thing to keep track of.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 5:49 pm to Iowa Golfer
I dunno, this chart looks pretty insane.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:15 pm to sneakytiger
Not really. My sales price points are throughout the thread. Now UNG on the other hand, futures would drop a dime, and UNG would hardly move. The etf to me was maddening.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:16 pm to sneakytiger
Looking at that graft UNG's next rollover rebalance starts Aug 13.............
Thats when we should be looking to exit.........a 3.85 Futures would be pretty good money for KOLD.
Thats when we should be looking to exit.........a 3.85 Futures would be pretty good money for KOLD.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:19 pm to L S Usetheforce
I put 100k of my wifes retirment in KOLD at 37....If I can sell at 57..........her 2700 shares make 54k.........that is better in 6 months than she did in 6 years.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:03 pm to L S Usetheforce
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I put 100k of my wifes retirment in KOLD at 37....If I can sell at 57..........her 2700 shares make 54k.........that is better in 6 months than she did in 6 years.
Nice. I've been praising you and this thread all week.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 7:11 am to TigeRoots
Free fall continues.
What everyone's take on when to go long? By which instrument(s) are you going long? Price targets for the security of choice and underlying?
I'm mid to late August. Selling DGAZ at $5 something. Not sure about the rest yet.
What everyone's take on when to go long? By which instrument(s) are you going long? Price targets for the security of choice and underlying?
I'm mid to late August. Selling DGAZ at $5 something. Not sure about the rest yet.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:36 am to Iowa Golfer
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Selling DGAZ at $5 something
What a winner this puppy has been over the last week. I was just trying to figure out where I was gonna get out...
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:16 pm to Iowa Golfer
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Free fall continues.
What everyone's take on when to go long? By which instrument(s) are you going long? Price targets for the security of choice and underlying?
I'd like to know as well.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:58 pm to I Love Bama
Early injection estimates are between 96-100.
DGAZ I'd like to sell at over $5. I'm averaged down on this to about $2.615. I'm going to watch.
I think $3.50 gas is possible, but don't know.
I do think I'm looking to go long mid-August. Not because that will necessarily be the bottom for this injection season, but because I think long calls should be beat down enough by them for Sept-Dec gas.
I might consider BOIL.
I await Userforce's insight. I'll say this. It's not like I'd ever give too much weight on what some random message board poster would say on the interwebz, nor would I ever expect anyone to follow what I say, but he appears to put a lot of research in to his analysis, as do I, and I will take his insight into strong consideration.
What say you User?
DGAZ I'd like to sell at over $5. I'm averaged down on this to about $2.615. I'm going to watch.
I think $3.50 gas is possible, but don't know.
I do think I'm looking to go long mid-August. Not because that will necessarily be the bottom for this injection season, but because I think long calls should be beat down enough by them for Sept-Dec gas.
I might consider BOIL.
I await Userforce's insight. I'll say this. It's not like I'd ever give too much weight on what some random message board poster would say on the interwebz, nor would I ever expect anyone to follow what I say, but he appears to put a lot of research in to his analysis, as do I, and I will take his insight into strong consideration.
What say you User?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:29 am to Iowa Golfer
I need to talk to my Henry hub connect and make a call but next two weeks for sure will be pro bear...... What I'm worried about right now is the productivity may place us in a spot between Aug and Sept..... I stand by my stance that boil below 30 is a pretty safe buy to return 25% by January.
I'll get back with yall as soon as I speak to my people.
H
I'll get back with yall as soon as I speak to my people.
H
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 8:44 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:05 am to L S Usetheforce
Ok 1 of my consultants says BOIL buy in is realistically STRONGEST BUY-25 SAFE 28 NEUTRAL 30
Thinks hot August could drop price considerably as futures trade up for winter months....
EXIT on KOLD RISKY 64 NEUTRAL 57 CONSERVATIVE 55
Thinks hot August could drop price considerably as futures trade up for winter months....
EXIT on KOLD RISKY 64 NEUTRAL 57 CONSERVATIVE 55
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:54 am to L S Usetheforce
I think I will bail on KOLD around $60.
What about DGAZ? (Conservative, Neutral, Risky marks). I'm itching to get out, but it's tough to with the run it's on.
What about DGAZ? (Conservative, Neutral, Risky marks). I'm itching to get out, but it's tough to with the run it's on.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:18 pm to TigeRoots
just watch KOLD and sell DGAZ at same price points listed.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:43 pm to L S Usetheforce
What do you think the next six months have in store for UNG? I'd like to get in and out of something in a six month window.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:19 pm to I Love Bama
UNG is usually a good buy in the 18s..........and that can translate to a turn around of like 24-26 range by peak winter season from all I've seen.
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