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re: NBA Fan makes 20K half-court shot, now has to give up money or lose eligibility

Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:26 am to
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:26 am to
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dude has less than 1% chance of ever making the pros


i never said he had a chance of making the pros. maybe the dude just really enjoys playing basketball and his teammates and where he goes to school and his coach…a number of things that could make his experience worth far more than 20k.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:26 am to
what's going on with this thread?
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:29 am to
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NAIA school, dude has less than 1% chance of ever making the pros. Take money, leave next semester, transfer to D2 or D3, finish career, and have 20k in pocket



If you play poker than you should tell him to continue playing by pot odds.

Let's assume he only ever makes the average NBA salary for one year if he ever makes it to the NBA.

Average NBA salary: $5.15 million

Odds are 1 percent he makes that. So 5,150,000 X .01= $51,500

That means he should only give up basketball for an amount in excess of $51,500.

On the opposite end, the chances that he makes the NBA that he needs to keep the money are= $5,150,000/$20,000= 257.5 or 100/257.5-
.38% chance.

So if he has less than a .38% chance of making the NBA then he should keep the money.


As everyone can tell, I enjoy avoiding my family on Thanksgiving.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:36 am to
My problem is what pencil pusher, sitting at his desk, even remotely considered notifying the guy he couldnt keep the money?

Just file it under, hmmm, "who would have thought that would ever happen?"
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:41 am to
quote:

So if he has less than a .38% chance of making the NBA then he should keep the money.



Ok so he should keep the money
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:45 am to
that's wrong.

it's no different than winning the lottery or going to a fair and winning a prize
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:50 am to
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It's not like someone paid him because he's a basketball player. He went out on his own and competed in a contest and won?


I think he has a case to keep the money and his eligibility. He's not being paid to play basketball; hopefully a good tax attorney will lend a hand and make the case for him.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:55 am to
It's a contest for being a fan of a professional team in which he was selected and won just as any other fan of that team could have.

Just isn't right at all to strip him of that.
Posted by Chasin The Tiger
Lake Travis, TX
Member since Sep 2012
575 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 2:01 pm to
Stupid rule but I would easily give up the $20k. It's not that much money in the grand scheme of things.
Posted by William Stephenson
Mare Liberum
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/28/13 at 2:44 pm to
NAIA
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32775 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 5:53 pm to
Did Jackie Moon put on that halfcourt shot contest?
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 6:02 pm to
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It's not that he won money in a contest, it's that he won money in a contest playing basketball. If he was a football or baseball player, this wouldn't be an issue.


No

He didn't get paid to compete in an organized game. He made a half court shot during a halftime show and won the prize. So if a college quarterback wins a $10 prize at the football toss booth at the fair and he can't keep it?
This post was edited on 11/28/13 at 6:04 pm
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Stupid rule but I would easily give up the $20k. It's not that much money in the grand scheme of things.

To play NAIA basketball? There are pick up games at the Y that are higher quality.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 6:06 pm to
It is not the quality of the games. It is being on a team and sharing the experiences of a lifetime with close friends. The times in the locker room, bus rides, and bonding together are easily worth more than $20,000, and I can say that firsthand.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5054 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 6:08 pm to
Would his partial scholorship over the next 3 years be worth more than $20k?

That would be big in my decision making
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110660 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

To play NAIA basketball? There are pick up games at the Y that are higher quality.
we all value things differently.

This seems like an odd place to take a stand and tell a guy where he should place has values.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32643 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 9:23 pm to
If the kid loves college ball then he should keep playing. If he can live without it then he should take the 20k (end up keeping almost every penny unless he already has a full time job) and find a basketball league nearby where he can play games just as competitive as NAIA.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 9:59 pm to
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NAIA school, dude has less than 1% chance of ever making the pros. Take money, leave next semester, transfer to D2 or D3, finish career, and have 20k in pocket


I don't believe that is a possibility. If he looses his amateur status, then he would be ineligible in DII or DIII as well.

I agree about weighing his scholarship appropriately. Hell he could be giving up over $20,000 in scholarship funds, which obviously would not make sense.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 10:10 pm to
Not sure how much his scholarship is worth, but full-time tuition for Southwestern College is $23,736 per year. The rule is dumb, but if accepting the money means he forgoes his scholarship, it probably doesn't make sense financially. Not sure how much his partial scholarship is worth though. LINK
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64025 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 12:51 pm to
If he's not going to play in the NBA, take the money, finish college, and be the balla on campus for 2 more years.
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