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JEAUXBLEAUX
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Of course religious discrimination is wrong. Big feet let's not be ridiculous.





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Antonio Moss
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Of course religious discrimination is wrong.


So employers should be prevented from hiring, firing, etc. based on religious affiliation?






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los angeles tiger
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How is it a reach? Men that only want to be with other men that only like to have sex with other men are in fact segregating themselves and discriminating against women. I know plenty of gay men that hate women and will have nothing to do with them. That's discrimination. What about the gay bathhouses that have gay sex and women aren't allowed in them?





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You obviously aren't well versed in discrimination and equal protection law.

Your position essentially would put an end to employment at will.
You asked a stupid question. The characteristics you mentioned are specified in discrimination laws because those are characteristics against which have been discriminated historically. Big feet might be mentioned in discrimination laws if there were a history of such discrimination, but there isn't, so there is no such law. Discrimination laws are written to treat equally what people ignorantly treat unequally.






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Tesla
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That way everyone in the South can avoid having to hire, promote, give raises to blacks and women.


That is the epitome of a bigoted statement, right there....Southaphobic, too.






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boosiebadazz
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too asinine to seriously address

Keep thinking that is a viable argument






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los angeles tiger
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Of course religious discrimination is wrong.


When you put sexual orientation in with religion, one must trump the other. You always support sexual orientation trumping religion, such as the photographer in New Mexico who didn't want to provide her services for the lesbian couple. You like government force, no different than government force used in Europe in the 20th century.






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When you put sexual orientation in with religion, one must trump the other. You always support sexual orientation trumping religion, such as the photographer in New Mexico who didn't want to provide her services for the lesbian couple. You like government force, no different than government force used in Europe in the 20th century.
You're really making TERRIBLE arguments here. Just absolutely terrible.

If a lesbian couple denied service to people because they're Christians, those of us who are sane would take the same position.






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Antonio Moss
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You asked a stupid question.


So asking for the requirements that make a certain characteristic protected compared to other characteristics is stupid?




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The characteristics you mentioned are specified in discrimination laws because those are characteristics against which have been discriminated historically.


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Discrimination laws are written to treat equally what people ignorantly treat unequally.


People discriminate for 1000 of reasons outside of those found in the CRA. Why not protect those?

What about political affiliation? income? wealth? residence?



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los angeles tiger
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too asinine to seriously address

Keep thinking that is a viable argument


Translation: You are incapable of addressing my statement and do not wish to admit that you lost the debate, considering that I am more of an expert on this subject than you. You didn't address the discrimination that takes place by those all-male bathhouses, all-male clothing optional hotels and resorts, all-male leather bars and clubs.






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People discriminate for 1000 of reasons outside of those found in the CRA. Why not protect those?

List them.






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boosiebadazz
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k





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Turbeauxdog
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List them.


Height is a great example.






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los angeles tiger
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People discriminate for 1000 of reasons outside of those found in the CRA. Why not protect those?



Exactly. Freedom allows for discrimination by the citizen. Totalitarians seek a utopia that ends the discrimination that they want ended yet blindly ignore all the other types of discrimination, particularly how they use government force to discriminate against those that differ with them.






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los angeles tiger
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One at time.

Should all-male gay resorts be closed because they discriminate against women?

Example in this link.

LINK



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Antonio Moss
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List them.


Height
Weight
Intelligence
Experience
Attractiveness
Physical ability/inability
Compatibility
Communication ability
Income
Wealth
Availability
Age
Linguistics
Prior decisions
Social status
Skill set
Political affiliation
Educational affiliation







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Height
Weight
Intelligence
Experience
Attractiveness
Physical ability/inability
Compatibility
Communication ability
Income
Wealth
Availability
Age
Linguistics
Prior decisions
Social status
Skill set
Political affiliation
Educational affiliation
Ok. Now what?






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boosiebadazz
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Is it a private club?





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Bard
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I am protected regardless of race just like I'm protected regardless of how big my feet are. These are equally protected.


I don't believe that's correct. Unless my understanding of discrimination law is in error (which is possible), unless something is specifically identified as a criteria that can't be discriminated against, someone can legally discriminate against it.






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los angeles tiger
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It's a business. PERIOD. It's a hotel.
Bathhouses are businesses as well.






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