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fishfighter
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re: Twitter IPO


My take on this IPO, it is not a buy. Tech companies just turn me off. There are just to many unknowns.

Pricing started at $18-$20. Then hyped it up to $22-$25. And now pushing it at $26+. Is there a way to make money? Yes, but also there is a way to make money by putting everything on red.







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JayDeerTay84
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re: Twitter IPO


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witter's big problem is that a VAST majority of its use is on mobile.


Except for the fact that there are over 5 billion mobile devices world wide.

Far more than PCs






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reb13
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re: Twitter IPO


Word is it is going to open at 40





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Lsut81
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re: Twitter IPO


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Word is it is going to open at 40


Settling in the 44-46 range. About to start trading


ETA: Locking down 45.50 - 46 now.



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barry
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re: Twitter IPO


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Settling in the 44-46 range. About to start trading


Thats just absurd.






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reb13
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re: Twitter IPO


Looks like 45.16, of course this is delayed.





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dallastiger55
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re: Twitter IPO


Told u guys. I was made fun of when I said I was putting a ton in at $20







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DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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re: Twitter IPO


Open at $45.10





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dallastiger55
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re: Twitter IPO


So what would you predict for end of week price?





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Lsut81
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re: Twitter IPO


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So what would you predict for end of week price?


I haven't looked at their financials, but I keep hearing analysts say "Its an unprofitable company"

Absolutely incredible that people are throwing that kind of money on something that doesn't have a set revenue stream.






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barry
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re: Twitter IPO


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I haven't looked at their financials, but I keep hearing analysts say "Its an unprofitable company"


Obviously its not profitable right now. Its a pure growth bet that they will be able to monetize mobile ad revenues. I think they are benefiting tremendously from facebook being able to do so. Put this is a very different platform.

FWIW they did 500 million in revenues last year and lost ~650 million.

Their current market cap is 25 billion



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Korkstand
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re: Twitter IPO


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I haven't looked at their financials, but I keep hearing analysts say "Its an unprofitable company"

Absolutely incredible that people are throwing that kind of money on something that doesn't have a set revenue stream.

Pretty good article about Twitter's IPO.

It explains what I try to tell you guys here every now and then whenever you think the market is being totally irrational about a stock. Some of you are so focused on what a company's numbers look like right now that it seems like you've never heard the term "future cash flows". Facebook was much more mature (and growing more slowly) at its IPO than Twitter is. Twitter has a lot more upside potential than FB.

So, yeah, Twitter's market cap looks absurd right now. But a lot of smart money sees the potential.






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southernelite
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re: Twitter IPO


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Except for the fact that there are over 5 billion mobile devices world wide.

Far more than PCs


But PCs generate better ad revenues. FB faced this problem that its harder to turn mobile ads into revenue. Facebook figured it out, twitter will have to.

The huge difference in FB and Twitter is growth potential in user base. Facebook needed to enhance revenues per user and that was their main focus, whereas twitter needs to ad users to grow revenues.






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barry
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re: Twitter IPO


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Except for the fact that there are over 5 billion mobile devices world wide.

Far more than PCs


You don't get it.






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barry
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re: Twitter IPO


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Some of you are so focused on what a company's numbers look like right now that it seems like you've never heard the term "future cash flows"


Can I start an O&G E&P company with 500 million dollars of revenue, "project" hundreds of billions of future CF and get a 25 billion market cap?






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fishfighter
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re: Twitter IPO


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Absolutely incredible that people are throwing that kind of money on something that doesn't have a set revenue stream.


This.






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Lsut81
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re: Twitter IPO


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FB faced this problem that its harder to turn mobile ads into revenue


One of the two major reasons I deleted my FB. I only used the mobile side to access it and you could not get around the ads, it was annoying.

I rarely use twitter, but the ads they already have get fricking annoying and that is one of the reasons I rarely go.






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Korkstand
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re: Twitter IPO


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Can I start an O&G E&P company with 500 million dollars of revenue, "project" hundreds of billions of future CF and get a 25 billion market cap?

Depends. Are your revenues demonstrably growing at 100%, and will you be able to achieve margins north of 60%?






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Dooshay
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re: Twitter IPO


if you do i'll be your reservoir engineer.





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FootballNostradamus
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re: Twitter IPO


LOL at people who purchase IPO's.





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