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re: Best Plan for Kid's College Funds

Posted on 10/5/13 at 6:59 am to
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/5/13 at 6:59 am to
quote:

I thought even the highest brackets get 2% match in LA


That may actually be the case and I just overlooked the match when looking over the statement from 2012.

Broke -- any thoughts on why you chose American Funds 529 over State of La?
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 10/5/13 at 8:04 am to
quote:

So what does the state get out of it?


Off the top of my head possibly a small % in administrative fees.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63180 posts
Posted on 10/5/13 at 10:38 am to
quote:

How do yal know where your kid is going to go when he selects his college? I feel like there's no way I could select a specific state.



In the case of a guaranteed tuition plan, the state pays for your kid's school, regardless of what state he attends, the going rate on the average university of the state you paid into.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51883 posts
Posted on 10/5/13 at 7:52 pm to
If the kid didn't qualify for TOPS, I'm sure as hell ain't coddling and enabling to pay for college.

I *might* help him on loans after the fact if he gets his shot together.p
Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
3579 posts
Posted on 10/5/13 at 9:15 pm to
MS no longer allows enrollment into the MPACT plan that locks in the tuition. They are planning to open it back up at some point but it won't be the same. Basically they figured out it was too good to be true. Fortunately I got my son enrolled a fee months before they closed it, so we are locked in.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63180 posts
Posted on 10/5/13 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

MS no longer allows enrollment into the MPACT plan that locks in the tuition. They are planning to open it back up at some point but it won't be the same. Basically they figured out it was too good to be true. Fortunately I got my son enrolled a fee months before they closed it, so we are locked in.



Samesies.

I'm on the 5yr university plan. Intending to send son to jr college for the first two years to save even more money though. Maybe he can use the difference for grad school.
This post was edited on 10/5/13 at 9:24 pm
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 10/5/13 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

In the case of a guaranteed tuition plan, the state pays for your kid's school, regardless of what state he attends, the going rate on the average university of the state you paid into.


So is there a reason everyone wouldn't just google whichever state has the highest average tuition for state universities and then just all contribute to this state's fund?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63180 posts
Posted on 10/5/13 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

So is there a reason everyone wouldn't just google whichever state has the highest average tuition for state universities and then just all contribute to this state's fund?


I don't think every state offers a guaranteed tuition-paid program.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97607 posts
Posted on 10/6/13 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Let's face it, they dont all meet the TOPS requirements.


Also not all kids want to go to public schools in Louisiana
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65038 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Broke -- any thoughts on why you chose American Funds 529 over State of La?


Because I made too much money to get the match and American Funds has historically been very good to me and my clients. They offer every fund within the 529. So I chose them.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
17990 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:44 am to
I'm in Michigan's 529. Lowest administrative costs and good history of return. Virginia was very good in my research as well.

Mississippi's was amazing before they shut it down.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:55 am to
I am a big fan of the LA Start Program.
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2982 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Because I made too much money to get the match


unless I'm misunderstanding the disclosure docs, any AGI of $100,000+ and above still gets a 2% match (called an earnings enhancement) plus a state tax deduction, unless the account owner is not related to the child beneficiary. We've never not gotten it.

But I know you have great trust for American Funds and that factored greatly into your decision.

Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65038 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:58 am to
quote:

But I know you have great trust for American Funds and that factored greatly into your decision.



And investing in it cost me nothing because I am an advisor. So that played a role also.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

I am a big fan of the LA Start Program.


I plan on setting a couple up here soon for my son and daughter. Can the money be rolled into an IRA later on if the child never needs it for college?
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65038 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

I plan on setting a couple up here soon for my son and daughter. Can the money be rolled into an IRA later on if the child never needs it for college?


No
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26481 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:14 pm to
The fees kinda scared me away from the American funds 529. I'm use to low expense ETFs.

Going to run some #s and see what I'm lOsing by going away from La 529. I hate the very limited selection.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:20 pm to
Don't let fund fees be the determining factor in any investment.
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2982 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

I'm use to low expense ETFs.
quote:

I hate the very limited selection.


Yeah, it's just low cost Vanguard index funds in LA Start. There's the 4 lifestyle options: conservative portlio, income portlio, moderate portfolio and growth portfolio. Then there's any combination you want of the Total Stock Index, Total World Index, Total Int'l Index, Mid-cap, Small Cap, and Large cap Indexes. Or the Louisiana Principal Protection Fund at 2.5%.

For actively managed funds, you'll pay more and have more choices elsewhere.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

quote:
I plan on setting a couple up here soon for my son and daughter. Can the money be rolled into an IRA later on if the child never needs it for college?


No


So say the child gets a full ride or TOPS is still around (I doubt this) and their is more then what is needed in the fund. Is it just withdrawn with a penalty/tax, or is their anything else that can be done with it?
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