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NC_Tigah
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Thursday college football games suck


Saturday for college.

Sunday and Monday for NFL.
Meh.
You'll enjoy LSU playing a game on Monday night this season







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USMCTiger03
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seems like a pretty safe assumption

Not really.
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the total deprivation of liberty of a whole group of people is pretty horrific.

In today's context, yes. There was a time when society didn't have safety nets like welfare, min wage and labor standards. Liberty doesn't put food in the belly.






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sugar71
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I don't know what any of this means. Are you arguing that blacks are naturally afraid of whites?


You've got to understand the old Southern 'Gentlemen' Bigot. He arugues that slaves were basically child like & happy to be slaves & simply docile by nature.

Blacks were so naturally docile in fact they were the ONLY slave population in the history of the world to ever sucessfully fight for their own freedom & usurp a government(Haiti).


Maybe Delta hasn't read how Blacks were so docile , happy with slavery & afraid of Whites that they went to war with the most powerful man in Europe(Napoleon). Haitians killed 50, 000 of Napoleon's troops, an astounding 20 of his Generals , killed every remaining French Plantation owner & his children, but spared the women ONLY if they married Black men.

Afterwards the Haitians invaded the Dominican Republic & emancipated it's slaves . Why would they invade another country & free it's slaves if they thought slavery was so swell, afraid of Whites or docile? Haitians went on to 'Occupy' the Dominican for nearly 25 years afterwards.

Because of this American slaves were supressed even harsher due to the ever present fear of slave revolts. Despite this there were still many futile slave revolts in the US despite uneducated slaves not aware of their numbers nor geography(Google slave revolts)..


Does that sound as if though Blacks were naturally docile , happy with slavery or afraid of Whites?

That's what the Southern Bigot used to justify slavery.






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onmymedicalgrind
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Thursday college football games suck

Whoa whoa whoa. This is a new day and age. I was referring to the Thursday night NFL game on NFL network. Last week Pats/Jets. Chiefs/Eagles right now. Who can be against more football??






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deltaland
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Does that sound as if though Blacks were naturally docile , happy with slavery or afraid of Whites?

That's what the Southern Bigot used to justify slavery.


I wasn't justifying it. I think owning another human being is horrendous. You're confusing 2 separate things I was talking about.

My argument on why it wasn't necessarily every case slaves stayed with their owners because of the threat of violence. THere were cases where, after the war some slaves remained on the plantation and worked for their old "master" because they felt some type of family bond, or didn't know where else to go.

Now the 2nd conversation, I never implied that blacks are naturally docile. I was merely stating an observation about many black people in the area where I'm from are timid towards white people, and at times seem scared. I was just wondering why that is...some act as if Jim Crow laws still exist.

It's kind of opposite here, as opposed to larger cities where white people act scared of black people due to the criminal negative stereotype that some people paint the black community with.






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sugar71
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True, but what actions in the modern era give them a legit reason to show any sort of fear of white people?

Maybe it is only where I live, but I see all the time black workers who are scared to enter the yard or house of the farm owner, or speak to his wife. I mean absolutely terrified, like the rules of the antebellum south still apply.

They do it on our farm...numerous times I've asked them to leave a farm truck or something in my driveway and they won't drive up it. They'll leave it at the end of the driveway

I asked them why one day and the guy said "man I figured you wouldn't want me in your yard". I was wtf I don't care


"Absolutely terrified"? Really
For one thing you are their boss & NOT their friends.

Respecting another man's property or wife is being "absolutely terrified" of him now?

Should they go swing on the front porch with your wife drinking mint juleps until you get home?






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deltaland
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You don't understand unless you see it. The guys that work for us aren't terrified, but I know some that are on other farms. Our guys are still noticeably nervous even if I invite them to my house

It's just an interesting observation, as I don't see white people acting in the same way and it baffles me. I know in Jim Crow days that black people could be lynched if they were seen as hitting on a white woman (see Emmett Till). It seems that some in this area, even younger ones, still hold that fear even though the threat is no longer there and hasn't been for decades.






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USMCTiger03
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Your analogy and ultimate point is flimsy as the Haitian slavery system was quite brutal. Yet you're pointing to the revolt of the slaves there as an indication of how slavery was in the US.

Also, your recount of the revolt and aftermath is so incredibly flawed I got tired of noting the ways and just typed this.






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Tchefuncte Tiger
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No. I was married at Nottoway Planatation.





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CountryVolFan
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When you go anywhere in North America do you feel white guilt over the slaughter of the natives?





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Tchefuncte Tiger
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but there is no grand tourist attraction at that
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spot celebrating the wonderful beautiful achievements of the Indians



Paragon Casino?






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HortensePowdermaker
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How do you know those were committed there?


Which plantation home in south Louisiana are you asserting did not house a slave-driven planting operation? American slavery was a horrific crime against humanity.






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HortensePowdermaker
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Your analogy and ultimate point is flimsy as the Haitian slavery system was quite brutal.


Oh yes, as opposed to the lily-soft American version of slavery.

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Yet you're pointing to the revolt of the slaves there as an indication of how slavery was in the US.


It was brutal stoop labor under crack of whip. American slavers were TERRIFIED that American slaves would openly, violently revolt.

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Also, your recount of the revolt and aftermath is so incredibly flawed I got tired of noting the ways and just typed this.


Quickly, name just 2 things wrong with what he typed.






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BeeFense5
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Hortense and sugar are easily two of the biggest racists and race baiters on this site. Not sure why anyone gives these horrible trolls the time of day.





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HortensePowdermaker
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Hortense and sugar are easily two of the biggest racists and race baiters on this site. Not sure why anyone gives these horrible trolls the time of day.


Ridiculous. Their has been no race-baiting in this thread -only stupefying levels of ignorance. Sheesh, one of the "scholars" on here maybe heard one time about lions in Africa and turned that into "what would they rather do - be in America comfortably under master's whip, or live in a hut being attacked by wild animals".






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LongueCarabine
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Hortense and sugar are easily two of the biggest racists and race baiters on this site. Not sure why anyone gives these horrible trolls the time of day.



It isn't just that they are racists, but they are clearly unable to see any progress in the 150 years since slavery was abolished.

For some people, it's easier to pretend things have never changed so that they can justify their own inability to adapt.

After all, there's good money in that sort of thinking.

LC




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HortensePowdermaker
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It isn't just that they are racists, but they are clearly unable to see any progress in the 150 years since slavery was abolished.


Really? Show me something racist that I said.

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For some people, it's easier to pretend things have never changed so that they can justify their own inability to adapt.


For most people, it's easier just to pretend that nothing bad ever happened. Why, MY great-grandfather was a benevolent slaver. All those magical negroes just loved him to DEATH. He was renowned for his genteel slaving ways.

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After all, there's good money in that sort of thinking.


What are you even talking about?






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VOR
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White guilt.


I hereby nominate this term as the silliest, most overused phrase on the Poliboard.






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EA6B
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Ridiculous. Their has been no race-baiting in this thread -only stupefying levels of ignorance. Sheesh, one of the "scholars" on here maybe heard one time about lions in Africa and turned that into "what would they rather do - be in America comfortably under master's whip, or live in a hut being attacked by wild animals".


After defeating George Foreman for the heavyweight title in Zaire, Muhammad Ali returned to the United States where he was asked by a reporter, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?” Ali replied, “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat.”

"Ali’s point was that although the institution of slavery was oppressive for the slaves, paradoxically it benefited their descendants because slavery was the transmission belt that brought African-Americans into the orbit of Western freedom"







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goldenbadger08
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Alright, so who's the God damn liberal that made this thread go 7 pages.





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