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CptBengal
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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So any political group can be tax exempt?



the tea party isnt a political party. They advocate for lower taxes and shrinking government.

The concepts of federalism.

Just because Obama wants to do the opposite doesnt make them a political group.






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Shoat Nuff
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Member since May 2012
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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If I start spewing "Pro Obama Rhetoric" can I skip paying my taxes this year?


It worked for most of his cabinet.






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germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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Just another reason to end ALL tax exempt groups...


Amen!!!

I own a house in a fairly affluent county in Georgia and my property taxes run a little under $4000 a year. There are hundreds of churches in that county that enjoy the same amount of srevice from the Government that I do and they pay NO property tax...I don't understand why these good, self sufficient, rugged individuals feel that they are entitled to a tax subsidy from me.

Talk about pissed OFF....there is one of these things right next door to my house....Huge Jesus Incorporated.....big fricking place...has a huge parking lot across the street...probably a 10 acre total package....on Sunday morning there are two...two...county patrol cars directing traffic, which is non-existant on Sunday mornings, on top of the electronic crossing controls at the church....even if the cops are sidelining they are using county assets (cars) to do that sidelining. Now for the real pisser...come Monday morning the High School 1 block away in one direction and the middle/elmentary schools 2 blocks away in the other direction do not even have a crossing guard before and after school on a road that is unbeleivably congested on weekdays.






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FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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Talk about pissed OFF....there is one of these things right next door to my house....Huge Jesus Incorporated.....big fricking place...has a huge parking lot across the street...probably a 10 acre total package....on Sunday morning there are two...two...county patrol cars directing traffic, which is non-existant on Sunday mornings, on top of the electronic crossing controls at the church....even if the cops are sidelining they are using county assets (cars) to do that sidelining. Now for the real pisser...come Monday morning the High School 1 block away in one direction and the middle/elmentary schools 2 blocks away in the other direction do not even have a crossing guard before and after school on a road that is unbeleivably congested on weekdays. 
Is it off Old Alabama?






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UGATiger26
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Athens, GA
Member since Dec 2009
1897 posts

re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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Amen!!!

I own a house in a fairly affluent county in Georgia and my property taxes run a little under $4000 a year. There are hundreds of churches in that county that enjoy the same amount of srevice from the Government that I do and they pay NO property tax...I don't understand why these good, self sufficient, rugged individuals feel that they are entitled to a tax subsidy from me.

Talk about pissed OFF....there is one of these things right next door to my house....Huge Jesus Incorporated.....big fricking place...has a huge parking lot across the street...probably a 10 acre total package....on Sunday morning there are two...two...county patrol cars directing traffic, which is non-existant on Sunday mornings, on top of the electronic crossing controls at the church....even if the cops are sidelining they are using county assets (cars) to do that sidelining. Now for the real pisser...come Monday morning the High School 1 block away in one direction and the middle/elmentary schools 2 blocks away in the other direction do not even have a crossing guard before and after school on a road that is unbeleivably congested on weekdays.


Are you referring to Perimeter Church in John's Creek?






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UGATiger26
Georgia Fan
Athens, GA
Member since Dec 2009
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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Is it off Old Alabama?


Haha yeah we're thinking of the same one






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germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
2718 posts

re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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Is it off Old Alabama?


Nope...In Evans, Ga (suburb of AUgusta)....But I know the one your talking about...I actually grauduated from that one....strange...we paid the church to let us park in the parking lot because there wasn't enough student parking. And of course they didn't pay taxes on that money either....






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Powerman
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Member since Jan 2004
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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the tea party isnt a political party. They advocate for lower taxes and shrinking government.


How is that not political?






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CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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How is that not political?


then everything is political. Hence no organization should exist.

There are rules governing what, if done, revokes a 501(c)(3) status. You can look them up. But as the article said, "propaganda" wasnt one of those actions.






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FT
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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Powerman
STOP THINKING.






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FT
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


That was weird. Three of us all knew the same place.





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Lsut81
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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How is that not political?


It is... But it depends on what your definition of is, is


Again, there should be no tax exempt organizations....






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TerryDawg03
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Member since Dec 2012
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


Is there a website that tracks all of this garbage? There are so many blatant abuses of power by this administration, I'm starting to lose track.

What a disaster of a POTUS.






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CptBengal
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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Again, there should be no tax exempt organizations....



something we all can agree on.






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FT
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


I'm going go way out on a limb and say that the logical thing to do would be to specifically look for largely anti-Obama groups during his term.





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oklahogjr
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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"anti-Obama rhetoric," inflammatory language and "emotional" statements made by non-profits seeking tax-exempt status.

aren't these nonprofits supposed to be nonpolitical as well?


Lets add in anti-GOP rehtoric to the concerns and start getting rid of both sides special interest nonprofit tax shelters.






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Powerman
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Member since Jan 2004
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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then everything is political.

I would say that an organization lobbying for their particular political view of tax policy and trying to return us to some federalist wet dream is very obviously political in nature.






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germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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aren't these nonprofits supposed to be nonpolitical as well?


Lets add in anti-GOP rehtoric to the concerns and start getting rid of both sides special interest nonprofit tax shelters.



Preach it brother....






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jcole4lsu
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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So any political group can be tax exempt?

That seems like a huge flaw in the code.

No political group should be tax exempt ever.


not disagreeing with the above at all, however thats got nothing to do with the IRS over-stepping its bounds here.






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CptBengal
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re: IRS was concerned about "Anti-Obama rhetoric" from Tea-Party Groups


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is very obviously political in nature.



the rules of a 501(c)(3) dont say you cant have political leanings. They say you cant do certain actions. Why you keep using the two interchangeably into some attempt at a gotcha is odd.






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