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deltaland
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So is it known to be unhealthy at these levels or not? I couldn't really care less if something is unnatural.


If you ate contaminated fish once or twice, probably wouldn't hurt you. But say someone eats it once a week, or once every 2 weeks, and it can cause problems.

Take into account this isn't the only dangerous chemical to be found in these fish..numerous carcinogens from chemicals have been found over the years. This is just one new example






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conservativewifeymom
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Yes, we have seen a significant increase in the price of catfish up here, can't figure out why. It used to be known as 'the poor man's fish' but what poor man can afford $8 a pound fish?!?! Maryland is ridiculously expensive, mostly due to very high taxes imposed by our never-seen-a-tax-he-didn't-like governor O'Malley. I usually wait and get catfish when it goes 'on sale' for 'only' $5.99 a pound.





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rb
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So is it known to be unhealthy at these levels or not? I couldn't really care less if something is unnatural. 


I couldn't care less if it is, I eat U.S. catfish.






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GumboPot
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So is it known to be unhealthy at these levels or not?


IMO at these level we should be concerned about the chronic effects. From the MSDS

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May cause cancer. Tumorigenic effects have been reported in experimental animals. Experiments have shown reproductive toxicity effects on laboratory animals. May cause adverse liver effects. May cause adverse kidney effects. Repeated contact may cause allergic reactions in very susceptible persons. Component substance is listed on California Proposition 65 as a developmental hazard.






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conservativewifeymom
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In our supermarkets here in Maryland, the seafood is labeled with country of origin and whether it's fresh or 'previously frozen.' I don't know if it's a state regulation or what.





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GumboPot
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In our supermarkets here in Maryland, the seafood is labeled with country of origin and whether it's fresh or 'previously frozen.' I don't know if it's a state regulation or what.


Yeah, IDK. But I will be more careful where I buy my catfish, (or all seafood). I think Whole Foods only sells domestic catfish.






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conservativewifeymom
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There is also the issue of kids eating it. Their body mass is smaller, so the same concentration of toxicity affects them more. Catfish is mild and appeals to kids.





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This post was edited on 9/24 at 6:18 pm


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conservativewifeymom
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In general, I support a free market. That said, I do think that inspections are warranted because the standards of production can be vastly different abroad and consumer safety is not exactly a priority in many countries, especially in the developing world. Tariffs are a vastly different entry barrier and would not necessarily address the issue of toxicity and consumer protection. I honestly don't know enough about the US catfish industry to speak intelligently about it. Is it in danger because of cheaper and inferior products from abroad?





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Paluka
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I've seen plenty of patients become psychotic after smoking a joint dipped in formaldehyde. Some return to normal and some never do.

Not saying this would happen via these catfish but its a very strong chemical.






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TerryDawg03
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The western world leads in cancer cases because it leads in cancer screenings.


Interesting point.






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CarrolltonTiger
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Comments like this make you look just as pathetic as the posters who say "CT just hates all Jews."


It was a joke a hole, IB Freeman started a thread the other night on this topic arguing it was sheer money grabbing protectionism by big catfish interest and was vigorously denying any possible health threat from imported catfish, and claimed if there was the US victims could sue the Vietnamese catfish farmers in about 20 years when they develop cancer.






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deltaland
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Yes, we have seen a significant increase in the price of catfish up here, can't figure out why. It used to be known as 'the poor man's fish' but what poor man can afford $8 a pound fish?


Well fish prices have gone up due to a shortage going into the winter months and nearing the end of feeding season...a few farms experienced some big fish disease problems this summer and demand for fish has increased due to a rise in prices of imports and that has led to a shortage. Once next spring gets here and the new feed season starts and more fish are grown to market size the price should drop some.






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I B Freeman
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The 22 year old expert, Delta, will not state here tonight he is willing to give up the protectionist tariffs in exchange for USDA inspection of catfish I bet you.







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deltaland
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Is it in danger because of cheaper and inferior products from abroad?


Yes. Like on the verge of the entire industry collapsing type of danger.

In 2006, Mississippi had 100,000 acres of catfish farms. Now it has around 48,000 acres. The entire industry 10 years ago had 170,000 acres and processed 660 million pounds of fish. Now it has about 80,000 acres and processes 300,000 million.

Many farmers still operating are close to calling it quits due to old age and thin profit margins. If something isn't done to equal the playing field (i.e holding imports to our standards) then the industry will continue to have a sour outlook from the banks and no new farmers will be able to join. It is impossible to get a farm loan for catfish these days, and the industry needs new people. To change this, the market needs to be stable and able to grow. Thousands of jobs are at stake







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deltaland
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will not state here tonight he is willing to give up the protectionist tariffs in exchange for USDA inspection of catfish I bet you.



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deltaland
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re: Formaldehyde found in imported Vietnames and Chinese catfish (Posted on 9/17/13 at 6:46 pm to Tiguar)
Personally I would give up the tariffs in exchange for better import inspection. I think the inspection does more good all around...it ensures food safety and eliminated the double standard, and helps out our industry.







try again






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I B Freeman
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Ok he is willing but I bet he it the only special interest catfish farmer willing too. Most of them support making catfish farming eligible for the subsidized crop insurance welfare too.

The FDA inspects imported fish. Frankly I think one agency should do all food inspections if the inspections are to be done. I would prefer the private processors do something like the electrical appliance industry and have a UL certification.

Nobody should believe this push to move frozen catfish inspection which the FDA does to the USDA is anything other than an attempt to raise the cost of catfish to consumer as my other OP said.

You can google and find that the FDA has issued recalls on imported catfish and other fish several times.







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Layabout
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But, but why don't we let the free market work it out? All of that food inspection is just government bloat. Starve the beast. Hypocrite.





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I B Freeman
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What about molinate contamination in Mississippi catfish?? What happened there?

You got your MSDS on that?

LINK

Glass houses.






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I B Freeman
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What is this "L. monocytogenes contamination" in US processing plants?? LINK





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