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deltaland
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It is sold in our local supermarkets as 'swai' and is cheaper (around $4 a pound) than catfish which, when not on sale, is $8 a pound


Yikes. I can get US raised catfish here at the Supervalu stores for 2.80 a pound (but a catfish farmer and catfish processor owns the entire Supervalu franchise). Swai isn't sold here...I've never seen it. The kroger stores and other big chains sell US catfish for 3.50 to 6 dollars a pound depending on market price. Tilapia is the only import around here in grocery stores and it is usually 1 to 1.50 cheaper.

You live in Maryland though so I imagine cost of all goods are higher up there.

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We only buy catfish labeled as being from the US and only Gulf shrimp, which is more expensive but worth it.










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deltaland
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Personally I would give up the tariffs in exchange for better import inspection. I think the inspection does more good all around...it ensures food safety and eliminated the double standard, and helps out our industry.







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deltaland
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I don't understand how a guy who claims to be a Rand Paul supporter can push these protectionist tactics with a straight face.



They seem to find it necessary to ban these chemicals for us to use and inspect our fish to ensure we don't use them.

Now tell me, why can't they do the same for imports? If it is a health issue, then hold them to the same standards. If it isn't, then allow us to use the chemicals so we can grow more fish per acre and lower production costs. It is hypocritical and hurts one industry while helping the other.

I don't understand how you can't see that.






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rb
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They seem to find it necessary to ban these chemicals for us to use and inspect our fish to ensure we don't use them. Now tell me, why can't they do the same for imports? If it is a health issue, then hold them to the same standards. If it isn't, then allow us to use the chemicals so we can grow more fish per acre and lower production costs. It is hypocritical and hurts one industry while helping the other. I don't understand how you can't see that. 


The silence is deafening.






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C
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They say unnatural but not unhealthy so I'm not buying the known effects. Asians certainly have lower cancer rates than us.





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WikiTiger
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Personally I would give up the tariffs in exchange for better import inspection.


That's not what you were saying in the last thread. Should I go pull up quotes?

oh here they are:
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The best we can do is fight to have a fair market by holding imports to the same safety standards and tariffs



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We need these tariffs and inspection programs to get the industry back stable, making money, and pick up sales, and the banks to regain confidence so the industry can grow.







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WikiTiger
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They seem to find it necessary to ban these chemicals for us to use and inspect our fish to ensure we don't use them.


So fight that fight.

Your argument is essentially that 2 wrongs make a right. Absurdity.






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rb
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A Vietnamese peasant that dies at the age of 40 most likely wouldn't have been diagnosed with cancer. The western world leads in cancer cases because it leads in cancer screenings.





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deltaland
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Your argument is essentially that 2 wrongs make a right. Absurdity.


No it isn't. If there really is a health issue with using these chemicals in production (and there is) would it not be better to hold both to the same higher inspection standards rather than lowering the standards and everyone gets risky food to eat?






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GumboPot
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deltaland


How can I tell if I'm buying domestic catfish?

Living in La that was no problem. Catfish either came from Mississippi farms or Des Allemands, LA. I live in GA now. How can I tell were the catfish are caught or raised?






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Reubaltaich
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After listening to many Vietnam Vets and their stories about how the Vietnamese used human feces for fertilizer, and urinating and defecating in the water, I am VERY selective about buying fish, seafood, crawfish.

Pretty sickening






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deltaland
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On the tariff issue, I was merely re-iterating the entire industry's reasoning for wanting the tariffs because I was asked about it.

Originally my focus point in the thread was the USDA inspection, but IB Freeman derailed that argument because he was losing it, and the tariffs or any subsidy was never anything I advocated for or asked for from our Congressman. My emails to Congress have been only about USDA inspection. I can't speak for other farmers in the industry, as they have a different viewpoint but I can re-iterate the reasoning behind what they want.






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deltaland
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How can I tell if I'm buying domestic catfish?


Labeling. By law, if it is labeled as "catfish" it is supposed to be domestic and will have somewhere on there that is was raised in the US.

A restaurant that serves it is supposed to only call it catfish if it US raised, but many break that law. They'll call it catfish when in reality it is imported basa or swai in order to lead the consumer to believe it is domestic catfish. Some get caught and heavily fined, but way more get away with it.

In order to combat this problem, if the restaurant buys US raised then we give them this poster to state it is US raised. Look for this in restaurants..if it says "Catfish" and you don't see this sign or one similar specifically stating "Mississippi raised" "Southern raised" or US raised then I would be skeptical.

Signs look like this one:






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notiger1997
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I don't want to fight the tards on here over how cool the imported catfish are, but just wanted to tell you local guys good luck.





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Asgard Device
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This post was edited on 9/24 at 6:18 pm


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GumboPot
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Good info.






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GumboPot
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Formaldehyde is a naturally occurring organic compound.


Sure, but probably not in the concentrations inferred by the OP.






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rb
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Formaldehyde is highly toxic to all animals, regardless of method of intake. Ingestion of as little as 30 mL (1 oz.) of a solution containing 37% formaldehyde has been reported to cause death in an adult human.[27] Water solution of formaldehyde is very corrosive and its ingestion can cause severe injury to the upper gastrointestinal tract.






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deltaland
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Formaldehyde is a naturally occurring organic compound.


Article covers this. The levels found in the fish were unnaturally high. High to where consumption is deemed a health risk. Meaning the farmers overseas used formaldehyde to combat disease in the water that they raise their fish in






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C
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re: Formaldehyde found in imported Vietnames and Chinese catfish


So is it known to be unhealthy at these levels or not? I couldn't really care less if something is unnatural.





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