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XanderCrews
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


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Thank you, Jim Mora. That was definitely the Jim Mora Decision.

By the way, what do Jim Mora and I have in common?
Neither of us has won a playoff game in the NFL.


Im not really sure what this means, it looks to be pretty dumb. But I will try some stats.

Since Payton has been in NO he has gone 12-3 vs the Falcons and I think one of those losses was at the end of the year when we pulled the starters. Oh yeah and hes won a Superbowl with a hapless franchise and oh yeah keeps us in the playoff hunt year after year. But I agree we should get to text vote what we think the play should be.






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lsutigers1992
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


I think you can understand why when you have the reigning worst defense in history, and you watched LSU play Alabama last year, people would feel this way. This time it worked, and we're happy. But anyone who was confident in the decision must not have been a lifetime Saints fan. I can count on two hands in the 80s and 90s where we had the 49ers in a similar situation and we lost.





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BarbeTiger
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


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But anyone who was confident in the decision must not have been a lifetime Saints fan


This is the dumbest thing I ever heard. "Having confidence in your coaches decision makes you not a real fan"






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Brettesaurus Rex
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Member since Dec 2009
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


A lot of arguing going on about a decision that won us a division game to start the season.





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Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


negative. the field goal was the right call.

the time out was not. should have taken the 5 yards like someone else said.

A touchdown is a hard thing to get. If Atlanta had scored we get the ball with one timeout only needing another field goal.

Payton made the right call.






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Fox Mulder
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Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


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you watched LSU play Alabama last year


What the frick does this have to do with anything. Are the Atlanta Falcons secretly playing CFB as the crimson tide? GTFO. You cannot name one sound football reason it is the right call. We've already 1. Been stuffed on 4th and 2. Struggled on that side of the field.

Chances are against is scoring and we saw what the falcons did. March right down the field. They were in FG range almost instantly. You're lookin at OT when you could've had the damn game. There is also less pressure to score a TD and perhaps with a few more options, that's what they do.

Payton > LSU jock sniffer. PERIOD!






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Fox Mulder
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


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A lot of arguing going on about a decision that won us a division game to start the season.


Yeah WTF?






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BarbeTiger
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


Not trying to argue, but people are making some stupid comments





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Fox Mulder
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


Surely, you do not mean me.





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Brightside Bengal
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Member since Sep 2007
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


87% Win Rate whether you convert or not

This article bears out with actual statistics why we should have gone for it on the final 4th down.







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BarbeTiger
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


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Surely, you do not mean me.


Not you. People who are bringing up shite from 30 years ago and last years Bama LSU game...



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BaddestAndvari
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Mar 2011
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


Payton made 1 correct call and 1 bad call... or was it Brees that made the wrong call?

We SHOULD have kicked the field goal, we should have NEVER called the timeout.. /endthread

we are arguing over a decision that won us our first divisional game of the season, shame on all of you






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Fox Mulder
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Member since Dec 2010
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


We 100% won the game an the falcons would have 100% kicked a field goal to tie the game. I don't care what the statistics are league wide. In that game, getting the first or a TD was a 50/50 prop at best.

I can argue with statistics all day. I cannot argue with results.






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redfish99
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


"Which actually would have worked had they snapped it when Bierman leaned over"


You dont snap it there, you have the guy in front of him jump. But yeah it could have worked.






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Brettesaurus Rex
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


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We 100% won the game an the falcons would have 100% kicked a field goal to tie the game. I don't care what the statistics are league wide. In that game, getting the first or a TD was a 50/50 prop at best.

Nailed it






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bountyhunter
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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there


Going for the first would have been risky. The placement of the ball if we didn't get it, they could tie the game with a FG (which would have happened btw). No, force them into the red-zone where our defense always appears to play its best (even last year).


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lsutigers1992
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Not you. People who are bringing up shite from 30 years ago and last years Bama LSU game...


Our defense trying to keep a team out of the end zone....Vernon Davis recent enough for you?

Look--I'm happy it worked. But there are a lot of cases where it did not work and there are a lot of cases where it did work.



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Rex
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87% seals the deal, and, typically, the facts are on my side.

Many of the rebuttals here make no sense... they concede that Atlanta could have easily gone the 70 yards necessary to kick a long field goal but not 80 when a touchdown was necessary. And even then, the kicker would have had to split the uprights, the Saints would likely have had some time left to respond, and the worst case was overtime.

Like I said, the potential reward far outweighed the risks. Thank you for providing the link to prove it.






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LSU Fan Tylertown
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So if we didnt make it and the defense is playing lights out. We had 3 sacks.Defense may have gotten a sack in the end zone for a safety and Saints ball again to run the clock. All I know is we won a great game was very close to losing it





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Fox Mulder
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Austin, TX
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have easily gone the 70 yards necessary to kick a long field goal


because they did

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but not 80 when a touchdown was necessary


because they didn't. These are not what ifs, these things happened. The only what if, is whether or not we get the conversion and if one of the best kickers in the league can make an XP distance FG.

Additionally, I'm also left to wonder who would excercise better judgment in such a situation. On one hand there is a SB winning NFL coach with 6 years of experience under his belt. On the other, there is a weirdo who posts videos of himself dressed like a dog online. hmmmmm, tough call.



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