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but we also donated land & tens millions of dollars per year for the Holocaust museum. An event that didn't happen here nor was perpetrated by the U.S. Despite this

Holocaust -"Never Forget"

Slavery/Jim Crow-"Get over it"

This is one thing I've never understood. I've visited the Dachau Concentration Camp in Germany, which is now a museum. I noticed a lot of men wearing yarmulkes visiting the place with their families which should come as no surpise. I've also visited both the African-American and Holocaust Museums in D.C. It's understandable that there would be a Holocaust museum in Germany and an African-American museum in the U.S., but having a Holocaust museum in the U.S. makes about as much sense as having an African-American museum in Germany. The Germans would probably laugh if someone suggested such a thing. Also, from a logical and moral perspective, Germany should be the nation subsidizing Israel to the tune of $3 billion a year, not the U.S. The U.S. has more of a moral obligation to Liberia than it does Israel.






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How is Israel the responsibility of the U.S. government?












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CarrolltonTiger
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We didn't have a queer relationship with Israel until decades after Truman supported recognition in the UN. The situation was not unsustainable until after the 67 war and the Nixon years.

Israel could exist without fricking over the US and controlling our Congress.






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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Lsu pimp final solution. Thats what Hitler said. That kind of hate speech is bannable hate speech. Calling for deaths of anyone does not belong on TD


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This is one thing I've never understood. I've visited the Dachau Concentration Camp in Germany, which is now a museum. I noticed a lot of men wearing yarmulkes visiting the place with their families which should come as no surpise. I've also visited both the African-American and Holocaust Museums in D.C. It's understandable that there would be a Holocaust museum in Germany and an African-American museum in the U.S., but having a Holocaust museum in the U.S. makes about as much sense as having an African-American museum in Germany. The Germans would probably laugh if someone suggested such a thing. Also, from a logical and moral perspective, Germany should be the nation subsidizing Israel to the tune of $3 billion a year, not the U.S. The U.S. has more of a moral obligation to Liberia than it does Israel.


Good point. I don't think the US has a moral obligation to anyone. However, the Jewish - African comparison is not so good.

The Holocaust was the worst thing to happen to Jews who were doing quite well.
Slavery was the best thing to happen to blacks who were primitive illiterate savages.

Today, thanks to slavery, many American blacks are doing quite well. Not so in today's Africa.






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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Where is Afro?





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CarrolltonTiger
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The Holocaust was the worst thing to happen to Jews who were doing quite well.


Actually, the vast majority of Jews that died in the Holocaust were from the East doing no better than the millions of Ukrainian, Polish, Russian agrarians that also died from disease, starvation, worked to death, execution, etc.

Wealthy assimilated bourgeoisie Jews of Berlin, Budapest, Salonika, etc., and Bolshiviks, were a very small percentage of the Jewish victims.






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Never mind.
I can't win.
Please kill me.






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We didn't have a queer relationship with Israel until decades after Truman
Oh?
Please provide those details.
Please.

I'll wait.

Because I was under the impression Truman, the moron, arranged to give Israel immediate recognition, "no questions asked".






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trackfan
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Israel could exist without fricking over the US and controlling our Congress.

Not if they want to keep the Palestinian territories without giving the Palestinians citizenship.






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trackfan
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The Holocaust was the worst thing to happen to Jews who were doing quite well. Slavery was the best thing to happen to blacks who were primitive illiterate savages. Today, thanks to slavery, many American blacks are doing quite well. Not so in today's Africa.

Do you realize that you just contradicted yourself? Using your own convoluted logic, surely you realize that the Holocaust was the best thing that ever happened to Jews, since without it, they wouldn't have their own state with the world's only superpower at its beck and call. I'm going to assume that you're just trolling and that you're not really that stupid.



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Lsu pimp final solution. Thats what Hitler said. That kind of hate speech is bannable hate speech. Calling for deaths of anyone does mit belong on TD








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CarrolltonTiger
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Because I was under the impression Truman, the moron, arranged to give Israel immediate recognition, "no questions asked".


He simply decided not to oppose recognition by the UN, Israel existing is not the source of the threat to the US. Israeli control of our congress is, and that is a much more recent development. When for example Eisenhower threw them out of Suez in '56 we had control of our national interests and weren't in their pocket.






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trackfan
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When for example Eisenhower threw them out of Suez in '56 we had control of our national interests and weren't in their pocket.
Ike was the last American-firster president. Obama has often been accused of hating Israel (despite the fact that he acceded to every request they've ever made) but compared to Ike he's a hardcore Likudnik.






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cueing the :notthisshitagainpic:





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BamaScoop
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Jews wrote a book and convinced a bunch of idiots that they were Gods chosen people.





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lsu480
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Because the Jews run the US government, and most of the rest of the world, and if we don't protect them they will destroy us.


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sugar71
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Do you realize that you just contradicted yourself? Using your own convoluted logic, surely you realize that the Holocaust was the best thing that ever happened to Jews, since without it, they wouldn't have their own state with the world's only superpower at its beck and call. I'm going to assume that you're just trolling and that you're not really that stupid.


Racists REALLY believe that stuff like the deplorable Middle Passage, Slavery & Jim Crow was a good thing for Blacks('best thing to ever happen to them. Did them a favor").

I doubt if he has the thoughtfulness to realize the despicable notion that Hitler/Nazis did Jews a favor with the eventual creation of Israel.

I am keeping an eye on the Holocaust talk to see how long before the "move on" or "get over it" talk begins.

Honestly from my experiences Slavery is a sore subject with most Blacks & they rarely like talking about it other than superficial references.









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TrueTiger
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I am keeping an eye on the Holocaust talk to see how long before the "move on" or "get over it" talk begins.


I think you'll start seeing it. The perpetrators and victims are dying out quickly now.

In a few more years you won't be able to see and talk to anyone who actually participated in it, just like slaves and slavery now.






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sugar71
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Ike was the last American-firster president. Obama has often been accused of hating Israel (despite the fact that he acceded to every request they've ever made) but compared to Ike he's a hardcore Likudnik.


Chuck Hagel was nearly run out of D.C. For merely stating, "I am not an Israeli Senator. I am a U.S Senator" . How dare that Anti-Semite.

Any slight notion that you may want to criticize Israel will get you that label. Although Obama has been slightly critical of Illegal settlements he has no problem being the LONE nation to veto UN sanctions against those settlements.

A Nation of under 10 million can grab as much land as it pleases due to the automatic veto on the UN Security Council.






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