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re: Breaking Bad vs. The Sopranos
Posted on 8/26/13 at 4:47 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
Posted on 8/26/13 at 4:47 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
quote:An indictment on the average tv viewer.
It's already getting that sort of buzz.
quote:Nah
The ending really did suck.
quote:Too late
It will be hard for VG to screw the pooch
Posted on 8/26/13 at 5:05 pm to Blue Velvet
quote:
An indictment on the average tv viewer.
So, the average TV viewer that feels The Sopranos is better is just a better average TV viewer I guess, huh?
Yes, the ending sucked. You thought so too. Everybody did.
Your gripe about that clip is meaningless.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 5:09 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
quote:Wrong again.
You thought so too.
quote:There's that consensus/status-quo argument again.
Everybody did.
quote:If you don't realize how cheesy and borderline retarded that scene is then you may be beyond help. :prayers sent:
Your gripe about that clip is meaningless.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 5:14 pm to Radiojones
I like both, but BB is better IMO.
The Sopranos was a fairly consistent show with hardly any "poor" episodes. Not too much difference in terms of one episode being great and then next being "meh". Just a very consistently good drama.
Breaking Bad has a few boring setup episodes every season but once they've got you setup, Gilligan blows your fricking mind. There are more boring episodes than there are in the Sopranos but the good episodes are the best of any show, ever. "Half Measure", "Full Measure", "Crawl Space", "End Times"...episodes that you need a breather afterwards just to recover from.
The Sopranos was a fairly consistent show with hardly any "poor" episodes. Not too much difference in terms of one episode being great and then next being "meh". Just a very consistently good drama.
Breaking Bad has a few boring setup episodes every season but once they've got you setup, Gilligan blows your fricking mind. There are more boring episodes than there are in the Sopranos but the good episodes are the best of any show, ever. "Half Measure", "Full Measure", "Crawl Space", "End Times"...episodes that you need a breather afterwards just to recover from.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 5:28 pm to Blue Velvet
quote:
There's that consensus/status-quo argument again.
I'd love to hear how such an ambiguous ending fit in a show that had never been anything of the sort for it's run.... A long run at that.
quote:
If you don't realize how cheesy and borderline retarded that scene is then you may be beyond help. :prayers sent:
Too over the top? Yeah, we never got any of that in The Sopranos.
But I agree, that scene was a little much. Good thing it isn't an especially defining moment of the series.
But nit pickers be nit pickin'.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 5:38 pm to Blue Velvet
quote:
If you don't realize how cheesy and borderline retarded that scene is then you may be beyond help. :prayers sent:
Please explain how "cheesy" it is, aside from the fact that it is scientifically inaccurate.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 5:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
That scene is not scientifically accurate. If the explosion were truly that size then everyone in the room should be dead. Especially Walt, who threw it at his own feet. I don't mind it at all, but don't start claiming it's scientifically accurate.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 6:06 pm to SW2SCLA
That was meant to say "inaccurate". Doesn't make much sense the way it ended up
Posted on 8/26/13 at 6:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
That was meant to say "inaccurate". Doesn't make much sense the way it ended up
Thank god
Posted on 8/26/13 at 7:14 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
quote:
Yeah, the ending to The Sopranos was just fricking fantastic, and left everyone satisfied
The ending worked very well. The only people who wanted something different apparently were looking for something tied up in a nice bow so that they didn't have to use their head. And, yes, I liked the ending on the very night it happened. I was surprised . . . maybe a little disappointed for a few minutes . . . but after talking about it among the people I was with, we all came to sort of admire it. The fact that it's controversial and pisses people off makes it even more interesting to me.
And both series are very good.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 7:36 pm to VOR
quote:
The ending worked very well.
Not for a show like The Sopranos
quote:No, it wasnt hard to figure out what happened.
The only people who wanted something different apparently were looking for something tied up in a nice bow so that they didn't have to use their head.
quote:
And, yes, I liked the ending on the very night it happened. I was surprised . . . maybe a little disappointed for a few minutes . . . but after talking about it among the people I was with, we all came to sort of admire it.
So, you all had to convince each other that it was good. That's pretty normal. It's gotten to the point that people have all done this with each other to the degree that they don't want to admit that it was a shite way to end the show in fear of basically being called dumb.
quote:
The fact that it's controversial and pisses people off makes it even more interesting to me.
That's a seriously weak reason to like anything.
Again, how it ended did not fit with how the series had always been presented, period.
ETA: Everything you have said is basically excellent proof that the ending sucked.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:11 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
quote:
looking for something tied up in a nice bow
Christ. I'd like just one discussion of this without someone trotting out that tired cliche. Have an original thought instead of regurgitating that meme.
What makes it more painful to hear is that the series WAS neatly sorted out all the way up until the final scene. Just about every storyline was tidied up leading up to the last meal.
It was a straightforward show that jumped the track with an artsy-fartsy finale. That's what caused the backlash from the fans. Not their inability to think or to follow along.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:35 pm to VOR
quote:
The only people who wanted something different apparently were looking for something tied up in a nice bow so that they didn't have to use their head.
Cliched rationalization. If that's the straw you have to grasp to convince yourself you're satisfied and at the same time bolster your own sense of superiority over the mediocre, have at it.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:36 pm to Radiojones
Sopranos: lots of hype, little delivery (Seasons 1 & 3 were fricking awesome, the rest drags)
BB: holy shite solid. Except skylar and the whiney son. They suck.
To expound:
Sopranos preview: drama with Tony and Ralphie; they show Ralphie running in his robe outdoors looking scared.
Sopranos episode: ralphie's son shot himself with a bow and arrow
BB: no preview. The first episode back in the second half of season 5 they get the confrontation underway in the garage.
Sopranos is boring and anticlimactic. And I loved the show. BB (and The Wire) make the sopranos their bitch.
BB: holy shite solid. Except skylar and the whiney son. They suck.
To expound:
Sopranos preview: drama with Tony and Ralphie; they show Ralphie running in his robe outdoors looking scared.
Sopranos episode: ralphie's son shot himself with a bow and arrow
BB: no preview. The first episode back in the second half of season 5 they get the confrontation underway in the garage.
Sopranos is boring and anticlimactic. And I loved the show. BB (and The Wire) make the sopranos their bitch.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:39 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
They are both great shows Doesn't matter which one people think is better. Watch both. You will not be disappointed.
I agree. Both are pretty awesome. I'm about 5 episodes into season 5 and think that The Sopranos probably has more re-watchability to it, but Breaking Bad is no doubt the best TV show currently on TV and one of the GOAT.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:42 pm to rmc
quote:Until September 8th.
Breaking Bad is no doubt the best TV show currently on TV
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:50 pm to Blue Velvet
I personally rank it higher than Boardwalk, but Boardwalk is a close #2 for me. Of course, I don't count GOT because it seems like I've already watched it since I've read it to date.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:57 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
quote:
BB will be remembered as the better series.
This is highly unlikely, no matter the end. But I'm not going to get into the "which is better" discussion. That's not fair to either one.
Well, I will say that I feel like I'm being asked to choose sides. I like both shows a lot and when I say that it's seems very obviously The Sopranos, I don't want to it to appear as a knock on Breaking Bad because it is also one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Timing is also not fair to Breaking Bad. The Sopranos was a groundbreaking show and like someone else pointed out, not on basic cable. Breaking Bad has great writing despite limitations, but isn't exploring new territory or setting the bar for dramatic television.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 11:10 pm to rmc
quote:
Breaking Bad is no doubt the best TV show currently on TV.
One could easily make a case for Mad Men, and in fact, the majority of people would.
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