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re: Method to appease you idiot neutral site supporters
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:22 am to Rouge
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:22 am to Rouge
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Telling this stud recruiting class that they get to open their careers in reluant stadium and get to play in legendary lambeau field is a pretty cool thing
yes. All those 4* & 5* players want to go to the NFL, this is literally and psychologically one step closer.
There is only one problem with recruiting in relation to neutral sites and that is you can't have official visits.
However, when the neutral site games are:
A) in a heavy recruiting state/area
B) versus a major conference
C) versus a ranked (currently or previous year) opponent
the positives for recruiting far outweigh the negative of not having OV's IMHO
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Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:22 am to Coon
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What's wrong with wanting something better?
This is better for LSU. I find it laughable that some posters on here can't see that.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:23 am to Coon
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What's wrong with wanting something better?
What's wrong with appreciating what we have? Some people realize that a neutral site is the best chance we have at reaching an agreement with big OOC opponents.
And yeah, you probably should just take it because you have it better than 90% of fbs and there's nothing you can do about it.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:25 am to EarthwormJim
I would be happy to play any one any time any place! 
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:25 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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However, I prefer playing Wisconsin Houston and Green Bay over not getting any deal done and each team just scheduling crappy home games.
Do yall realize that those crappy home games make it easier for us to win NC's right? We could play no one big at all and still make the NC if we win out in the SEC.Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:27 am to More beer please
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Do yall realize that those crappy home games make it easier for us to win NC's right? We could play no one big at all and still make the NC if we win out in the SEC.
Maybe or we could drop a game in the SEC and still make it to the NC because of our OOC schedule.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:29 am to More beer please
Folks that are defending NS-OOC games: disregarding money, recruiting, or whatever other extenuating circumstances involved in these games, how do you feel about playing a game in tiger stadium or at another team’s home stadium vs at a neutral site game. Do you rather NS games and visiting these cities and playing in pro stadiums or do you rather being on campus and getting the feel of their traditions? Also, do you have season tickets and do you regularly attend away games no matter the site?
And don’t come back with the argument that you have to consider those things because you don’t just to get your feelings. I understand there are reasons these games are played, I just rather a h/h every now and then. And that’s not the direction we look like we’re going.
And don’t come back with the argument that you have to consider those things because you don’t just to get your feelings. I understand there are reasons these games are played, I just rather a h/h every now and then. And that’s not the direction we look like we’re going.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:29 am to Smoke Dinardo
While I agree that playing at Lambeau sucks, these neutral sites are all about being guaranteed more money than you would make from a home game. Playing at Camp Randall has always been on my list of stadiums to experience. When you go to smaller schools to play, they have smaller stadiums, thus not making very much money. Thats why bigger schools typically only do a home and home with other bigger schools that can pretty much bring in the same type of gate money.
In the end its all about money.
In the end its all about money.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:30 am to EarthwormJim
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Maybe or we could drop a game in the SEC and still make it to the NC because of our OOC schedule
Id argue we could still do the same without a good OOC schedule
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:40 am to More beer please
how many here think the people/admin who arrange for neutral site games are trying to recreate a version of traditional N/site games like the Red River Rivalry?
And please somebody correct me if I'm off base, but just thinking off hand but most of these big matchup N/site games are in the South? Can't argue economics of the SEC if that's true.
And please somebody correct me if I'm off base, but just thinking off hand but most of these big matchup N/site games are in the South? Can't argue economics of the SEC if that's true.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:41 am to TexasTiger1185
I agree you have to sometimes compromise to get what is best for your program. Now, HOW is playing EVERY good OOC opponent at a NEUTRAL site good for LSU, it's fans and season ticketholders,students and business community ????
An occasional neutral sit game is fine but EVERY year....while we get Furmans,Kent States and ULM..EVERY year .....I call horse-shite !!!
An occasional neutral sit game is fine but EVERY year....while we get Furmans,Kent States and ULM..EVERY year .....I call horse-shite !!!
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:42 am to Smoke Dinardo
I have no problem with neutral site games but I don't agree with having TCU as an opponent in Dallas. That's a no win situation for LSU because they'll get zero credit for beating TCU and is a true road game for only LSU.
Wisconsin should have been one game.
Wisconsin should have been one game.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:45 am to TIGRLEE
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Most people would agree the trip to Seattle and Blacksburg and then their return trip to BR was more fun than a trip over to Dallas or Atlanta.
well seattle is just an incredible place period.
Dallas was a blast. Atlanta has always been for me. Then again, i'll take going to a big city over a college town any day of the week
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:46 am to Smoke Dinardo
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The Wisconsin thing upsets me the most because going to Madison had always been in my top 5 college football road trips and now that we are wasting it on a neutral site BS I will likely never see LSU in Madison in my life time.
I hear ya bro. I think it would have been awsome to go to a game at Wisconsin.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:47 am to Rouge
If the recent past is any indicator..the future home dates with OK,NC St. etc. will all "evolve" into neutral site games...screw the season ticket holders and all the new buyers of suites/club seats in the SEZ !Does EVERY good/great OOC opponent now equal a neutral site game ? It appears so. The athletic dept. just needs to come clean with the logistics/reasoning and explain this trend to the people who pay the freight
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:47 am to JOHNN
Its obvious throughout this thread who the season ticket holders are and who is not a season ticket holder. That is the single dividing line in this argument.
Being a season ticket holder myself for 20+ years, I have watched the prices skyrocket as demand went up. LSU puts a great product on the field and I don't mind paying more to help the success continue. But I do get pretty upset when I get a letter saying my TAF fees are going up next year, then I read an article saying we are lining up more neutral site games. The season ticket holders are the backbone of the program, and other than 1-2 quality SEC games a year, the home schedule is absolute shite. We are asked time and time again to pony up, and yet we are rewarded with UAB, Kent St. and Furman, while our biggest OOC games get shipped of to Dallas, Atlanta, Houston.
People say that season ticket holders get first dibs at the away games, but the only away tickets I've ever gotten through LSU put us up in the rafters. I have 4 season tickets in section 103, the highest TAF fee section, and that is what I get for away games, so you do the math on what I've given over the years and what I'm "rewarded" with for these neutral site games.
Its easy for all of you fans with no skin in the game (non season ticket holders) to say that season ticket holders are whining and that we just need to suck it up or give up our tickets. You bumming tickets off friends or buying outside of the stadium brings no revenue to the school, so of course it doesn't bother you when we play Furman, you can just stay home and not spend any money that weekend. But I have already payed thousands of dollars to see these games so I either go, or try to find someone to give the tickets away to, which is a lot harder for these shitty games than you would think.
I understand where the economics of the game are, and I will do everything I can to see the Tigers play at Lambeau Field. But I can guarantee you I won't even sniff the LSU waiting list, so it will be off to Stubhub I go. All of the corporate suite owners who go to 1 or 2 home games a year cash in their donations for all of these marquee neutral site games, so what benefit do I get for happily paying my ever rising fees each year??
BRING ON KENT STATE!!
Being a season ticket holder myself for 20+ years, I have watched the prices skyrocket as demand went up. LSU puts a great product on the field and I don't mind paying more to help the success continue. But I do get pretty upset when I get a letter saying my TAF fees are going up next year, then I read an article saying we are lining up more neutral site games. The season ticket holders are the backbone of the program, and other than 1-2 quality SEC games a year, the home schedule is absolute shite. We are asked time and time again to pony up, and yet we are rewarded with UAB, Kent St. and Furman, while our biggest OOC games get shipped of to Dallas, Atlanta, Houston.
People say that season ticket holders get first dibs at the away games, but the only away tickets I've ever gotten through LSU put us up in the rafters. I have 4 season tickets in section 103, the highest TAF fee section, and that is what I get for away games, so you do the math on what I've given over the years and what I'm "rewarded" with for these neutral site games.
Its easy for all of you fans with no skin in the game (non season ticket holders) to say that season ticket holders are whining and that we just need to suck it up or give up our tickets. You bumming tickets off friends or buying outside of the stadium brings no revenue to the school, so of course it doesn't bother you when we play Furman, you can just stay home and not spend any money that weekend. But I have already payed thousands of dollars to see these games so I either go, or try to find someone to give the tickets away to, which is a lot harder for these shitty games than you would think.
I understand where the economics of the game are, and I will do everything I can to see the Tigers play at Lambeau Field. But I can guarantee you I won't even sniff the LSU waiting list, so it will be off to Stubhub I go. All of the corporate suite owners who go to 1 or 2 home games a year cash in their donations for all of these marquee neutral site games, so what benefit do I get for happily paying my ever rising fees each year??
BRING ON KENT STATE!!
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:51 am to slinger1317
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Its obvious throughout this thread who the season ticket holders are and who is not a season ticket holder. That is the single dividing line in this argument.
no it isn't. Almost every season ticket holder that I know is excited about playing TCU in dallas.
The UNC game in Atlanta was fun, the Oregon game in dallas was incredible, etc.
The tcu game is going to be fun. I'll be in BR for the other games, i like starting the season in a fun city
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so of course it doesn't bother you when we play Furman,
no one likes those games. That is a fake argument you are creating for yourself
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 9:54 am
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:53 am to Sev09
Have you looked at the schedule for this year, 2014,2015...? I'd say big/good home-home match-ups are a thing of the past !
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:54 am to TigerBait1127
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i like starting the season in a fun city
And a whole lot of other people enjoy home games
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:54 am to slinger1317
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Its obvious throughout this thread who the season ticket holders are and who is not a season ticket holder. That is the single dividing line in this argument
Not true, I'm a season ticket holder and enjoy the neutral site games. And there are plenty of other season ticket holders who do as well.
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People say that season ticket holders get first dibs at the away games, but the only away tickets I've ever gotten through LSU put us up in the rafters. I have 4 season tickets in section 103, the highest TAF fee section, and that is what I get for away games, so you do the math on what I've given over the years and what I'm "rewarded" with for these neutral site games
Away game seats are usually not great because of the away team sections the stadium puts us in. Some times I have had great seats, some times I have had terrible seats (most recently for A&M)
I've never had bad seats for neutral site games.
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