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re: Where do you rank the starters in the Southwest?

Posted on 8/4/13 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by cmlanier
Member since Mar 2013
120 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 5:26 pm to
PG
1) Tony Parker, SAS
2) Mike Conley, MEM
3) Jrue Holiday, NOP
4) Jeremy Lin, HOU
5) Jose Calderon, DAL

SG
1) James Harden, HOU
2) Tony Allen, MEM (lockdown defender)
3) Danny Green, SAS (had the spurs won, would have been finals MVP)
4) Eric Gordon, NOP (always hurt)
5) Monta Ellis, DAL

SF
1) Kawhi Leonard, SAS
2) Chandler Parsons, HOU
3) Tyreke Evans, NOP
4) Shawn Marion, DAL
5) Teyshaun Prince, MEM (not the player he used to be)

PF
1) Tim Dunan, SAS
2) Dirk Nowitzki, DAL
3) Zach Randolph, MEM
4) Anthony Davis, NOP
5) Omer Asik, HOU

C
1) Marc Gasol, MEM
2) Dwight Howard, HOU (can reclaim the top spot if he bounces back)
3) Tiagho Splitter, SAS
4) Jason Smith, NOP
5) Samuel Dalembert, DAL

All- Division Team:
Parker, SAS/ Conley, MEM / Holliday, NOP / Harden, HOU / Allen, MEM / Leonard, SAS / Parsons, HOU / Duncan, SAS / Nowitzki, DAL /Randolph, MEM / Gasol, MEM / Howard, HOU

Two years from now Pels should dominate this list
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22328 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 5:32 pm to
Parker
Holiday
Conley
Calderon
Lin

Harden
Gordon
Ellis
Allen
Green

Evans
Leonard
Parsons
Prince
Marion

Duncan
Nowitzki
Randolph
Davis
Asik

Dwight
Gasol
Splitter
Smith
Dalembert
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:33 am to
Parker
Holliday
Conley
Calderon
Lin


Harden
Ellis (all about "fit" with him. Could be 2-5)
EG
Allen
Green

Parsons
Marion
Leonard (will probably overtake Marion this season)
Evans (based in him as a 3)
Prince

Duncan
Nowitzki
Randolph
Davis (could climb to #1 this year)
Asik

Howard
Gasol
Splitter
Dalembert
Smith
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:56 am to
quote:

I did? I think Aminu is one of the worst players in the league. If you can quote me on that ill never post on this board again.


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e: Bright spot of the night: (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:44 pm to corndeaux)
Like, without a doubt "in your opinion", or without a doubt "factually"? Or do you mean last season?

Aminu has the 15th best PER in the NBA among SFs (4 guys who play less than 15mpg are ahead of him).


Parsons is... 43rd. He plays almost 40mpg and can't even put up any numbers worth a shite


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I certainly don't want you to never post here again and this isn't really Aminu is better than Parsons, so I was mistaken when I said that. And to be fair, Parsons was much better last year than he was during his rookie season.

I don't think Aminu is that awful. He's just a one way player. It was interesting that he had played a ton of minutes last year and had the best +/- of anyone on the team. A lot of people do think those type of stats are bullshite and I sort of agree. Still just an interesting quirk.

quote:

No one was talking about Leonard in the regular season. He is a product of the spotlight


He has been overhyped because of his performances in the playoffs. But a lot of people saw that he needed to and could turn in performances like what we saw in the playoffs.

From Grantland on April 17:

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From April 9 and some pretty high praise from George Karl

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This article from Ziller, interestingly enough spurred by Simmons talking about Parsons. More about how to find value players than breaking down the games of these guys. I would bet I posted this when it came out in February because he talks a bit about Vasquez.

The main idea is that if you are smart/lucky enough to draft or find a productive player outside of the lottery, you need to decide if you believe that player can be a star. If so, obviously lock him up. If not, use that production as leverage for a better piece.

LINK

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There are a few things about Chandler Parsons worth noting.

1. He makes $2.7 million through 2014-15. That's just plain mean.

2. He's somewhere between the second and fourth best player on the Houston Rockets' roster.

3. Despite spending a long time in college, he's only 24. After his current contract expires he has a solid four years of expected prime left.

4. He's a classic role filler: an athletic wing who can get out in transition, a decent deep shooter, a good passer and fair rebounder. I honestly can't tell much of anything about Houston's defense, so I'd rather not judge him there. I don't think he's terribly good, but that's a soft anti-endorsement.


quote:

Kawhi Leonard (who I'd call a star on his rookie deal at this point)


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So perhaps the lesson here isn't that you should not trade your cheap blue chippers, but that you should leverage their cost-effective production for 1-3 years, let the hype build as everyone realizes what a good deal they are and then flip them ... unless, of course, they have that star potential. Bradley and Bledsoe might. Parsons, Sullinger, Seraphin and Vasquez likely do not. Faried is so ridiculously productive that trading him would be too risky. In the end, the decisions need to be weighed like any other, and good front offices will do this better. But the lesson of Parsons is to use those non-lottery picks instead of selling them off, and to look for players who can be productive early, and to keep a reasonable mind about their long-term potential and trade value.


End of the day, I would love to have either Parsons or Leonard on this team manning the 3. Both are good, young players.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 9:44 am to
Mike Conley may be the most underrated player in the NBA
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