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Samantha Powers and Susan Rice are pushing Obama in this direction I'm sure.


Yup, and they have a dim understanding of the implications.



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Hey guys, just remember, if you don't like what these people are doing, simply vote them out of office after they've wasted a ton of money and killed all these people.





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We just don't know what to do when we can't attend a war.





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Hey guys, just remember, if you don't like what these people are doing, simply vote them out of office after they've wasted a ton of money and killed all these people.

Maybe we should be able to vote on whether we get involved a war.






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Lets see how the Obamabots spin this one. You know....that guy you fricking elected that promised to close GITMO, pull our troops out of the ME, and change the way the world views us?


fricking idiots.






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Maybe we should be able to vote on whether we get involved a war.


I'm not sure if that would be much better.






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I'm not sure if that would be much better.

It probably wouldn't be any better . And that says a whole lot regarding whether the American people and their Constitution have much authority over their government.






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Top US Military Officer: America Is Considering Entering Syrian War




I'm so over and done with America fighting useless wars that clearly pose no threat to us. frick the Mideast, it's time for us to get the frick out and start taking care of ourselves.






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Yes! Bomb those brown frickers!





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Patrick O Rly
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It probably wouldn't be any better . And that says a whole lot regarding whether the American people and their Constitution have much authority over their government.


Agreed. If you could get such a thing accomplished, the voters can be manipulated. They're already are manipulated pre war right now without a vote on it. They have to drum up some fear that we'll be in danger if we don't, or that so and so is too valuable of an ally not to assist.

And let's say they do vote to go to war: could you vote to stop it? When would they hold the voting? It's hypothetical, but even if you had a vote in the matter, you would feel ultimately powerless, as you should.

I've heard people suggest a war tax amendment. There would be no way in hell that would pass. There's hidden taxes (debt and money creation) already paying for the war. We're spending around 2 trillion a year on "defense," so there already is a war tax. It's strange to think about.



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There's hidden taxes (debt and money creation) already paying for the war.

There are so many loopholes and slick ways to con the American people out of their money and their representation that it's pathetic.






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direct kinetic strikes


Hooooo more kinetic military action with a pinch of humanitarian bombing coming on up!






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I'm sure Russia will have absolutely no problem with any of this.





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Lima Whiskey
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Well, I'm sure they're rushing that S-300 delivery to preempt any intervention attempts.





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We couldn't go to war if we wanted to. Sequestration just gutted the Navy


Oh, please. We still outspend something like the top 20 powers combined. Syria is not one of those 20.






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Seriously, what is even our interest over there?





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Lima Whiskey
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Oh, please. We still outspend something like the top 20 powers combined. Syria is not one of those 20.




Whenever you suddenly cut spending there are costs. In this case training cycles were eliminated, spare parts were never ordered, and deployments were cancelled. Without continual training, without continual repairs, without deployments, readiness will dip and in this case CAGs will not be able to perform their missions effectively.

In this case, we would be invading or at least bombing a country with a semi-modern air defense system and modern anti-ship cruise missiles. We would need at least two carrier air groups to destroy their defenses and establish air superiority. If the Syrians deploy the S-300 we will lose planes and pilots.

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Simply comparing the budgets is mistake. It's much easier to defend your own country than it is to project power half way across the globe. We'll need quite a bit of hardware to do the job.

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Seriously, what is even our interest over there?


I would argue we have none. Even the Israelis are leery of intervening, they believe Assad is the best worst option.



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Whenever you suddenly cut spending there are costs. In this case training cycles were eliminated


No shit, Sherlock.

It would still be a walkover.

Why we should bother is a legitimate question, but whether we could do it if we wanted to is not.






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Lima Whiskey
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That's a nice opinion, but the Navy simply isn't prepared to do the job. They'll need quite a bit of money and time to restore readiness and prep for any potential war.

""Due to reduced training and maintenance, almost all of our non-deployed ships and aviation squadrons are soon going to be less than fully mission capable and not certified for major combat operations. That's about two-thirds of the fleet," said Vice Adm. William Burke, the deputy chief of naval operations for warfare systems."

LINK

There are procedures for everything, units must be certified to deploy.



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almost all of our non-deployed ships and aviation squadrons are soon going to be less than fully mission capable and not certified for major combat operations


this makes me sick to my stomach






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