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I definitely agree. But how do you offer that when everything around them is poverty, crime stricken, and on top of that parents who don't give a crap?



It's not supposed to be easy. Personally, I would first increase funding to the failing public schools in America. Get rid of their ineffective administrators, make sure their teachers are competent, and make sure they have the resources they need to allow the children to compete with more privileged children.






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Why are those jobs being outsourced? It wouldn't have anything to do with those liberal bastions known as unions would it?


Some say that the reason we have such income disparity is because the unions are disappearing.






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Why was this thread anchored?





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parents who don't give a crap?


This is the biggest problem,imo,facing the black community.The poverty schtick is complete smoke and mirrors.People who are in real poverty fear it,for their children,and will by any means necessary see that the cycle is broken.I don't completely understand the argument about the lack of black role models when the childs most important one is staring them in the face?






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The poverty schtick is complete smoke and mirrors.


I disagree.

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People who are in real poverty fear it,for their children,and will by any means necessary see that the cycle is broken.


Upward mobility in the United States is pretty far behind other developed countries, and I find it hard to believe it's all a "mentality" thing.







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Dp


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Some say that the reason we have such income disparity is because the unions are disappearing.



Jobs and income disparity are two separate issues. I have no problem with unions, they are a perfectly natural function of capitalism.

But jobs are sort of like current, they will follow the path of least resistance. Surely there must be a balance.

But we're getting off topic here this thread is about race.






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Upward mobility in the United States is pretty far behind other developed countries, and I find it hard to believe it's all a "mentality" thing. 


It's damn near impossible in a single parent home.






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It's damn near impossible in a single parent home.



I agree with this.






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et rid of their ineffective administrators, make sure their teachers are competent, and make sure they have the resources they need to allow the children to compete with more privileged children.


yet you say

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Some say that the reason we have such income disparity is because the unions are disappearing.









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Two things:

1. I said:

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Some say that the reason we have such income disparity is because the unions are disappearing.


I was giving a particular side of an argument. I didn't say which side I agreed with.

2. I don't think the two statements are mutually exclusive. You can raise the requirements for teachers without destroying the unions, and administrators, like managers, are fungible.



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Doresrules


I appreciate your objectivity in these issues. It's a breath of fresh air being able to actually talk to a black person objectively because, as you said, that is lacking with the so-called black leaders we see in the media. People like you should be more active.


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Hard to see how one could inspire this race.


And yet, here we sit in 2013, with a black President lamenting his hardships growing up as a black male. Lamenting his being a victim due to his race. Someone should have whispered in his ear that he is leader of the Free World.

And even if I do give him the benefit of the doubt and acknowledge his stories of white people locking their doors as he walked by (up until he was a Senator he says), what of it? He is President. He should be a beacon of hope for all black people everywhere. Yet he wants to tell you how hard he had it because of his race and that we should change laws and create programs to even things out?

If you tell people they have no hope and act in ways to affirm that they will always be disadvantaged because of their race, even if the acts are well-intentioned, they will eventually take it to heart and believe you. If you encourage factionalism of a race, they will believe they must continue to be that way because there must not be any hope to overcome that.

What a catalyst for the black community Obama could have been...

The hope for the black community should be the black people that have succeeded in all walks of life, and there are plenty.

They just don't fit the narrative.









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Mohican
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Why was this thread anchored?




This thread should not be anchored.






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Personally, I would first increase funding to the failing public schools in America.


Why?






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Upward mobility is not a mentality thing in my opinion as a conservative white male. To me, it all starts with black males accepting their responsibilities in life, particularly to their family/lies. I am not sure of the exact percentage but I read somewhere that way over 75% of black families consist of the black mother, her children, and a grandparent, usually a grandmother. Till that lifestyle changes, the black family will continue to be stuck in the same rut, absent a small percentage of those who has what it takes to be upwardly mobile.





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