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CamdenTiger
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You don't start a fist fight with a gun on your belt on a rainy night. You can conjecture all you want. Travon jumped the guy following him. Travon had been robbing places around there, and he didn't want some dude shadowing him...





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catholictigerfan
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so if those prosumptions can be overcome the DOJ can charge someone with a federal crime which was pretty much the same as the state charge.

Personally I see it as a loophole which shouldn't exist but I'm no lawyer to I really have no idea






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wmr
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Eric Holder probably wants to send it to a Mexican drug cartel.





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Chrome
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federal hate crime


I'm guilty! I hate the federal government.






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BlackHelicopterPilot
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Gimme Back My Bullets!





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Alahunter
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Eric Holder probably wants to send it to a Mexican drug cartel.








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TheLankiestLawyer
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The trial evidence shows it's pretty safe to infer that TM attacked first


I agree, but technically Sharpton and them are not lying. They're just deceiving the ignorant.






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wmr
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Maybe its time for the whites and "white Hispanics" and other people with their heads on straight to protest that criminal shitbag Eric Holder.

If there's any outrage in this country right now, its the DOJ. This is not some third world country where you can just make the fricking rules up as you go along, Holder.






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Libertyabides71
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What "evidence" could they collect off the gun they haven't already? Civil rights law would not involve the actual gun.





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papasmurf1269
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Holder is just being a dick.





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mmcgrath
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GZ had a gun.

TM did not.

Ergo, TM was deprived of equal protection when GZ shot him unarmed


Interesting thought. Since TM was a minor, I presume state (and federal?) laws prevent him from purchasing a handgun. Since it was clear that he was interested in getting one (cell phone pics and texts) and he definitely could have used one for self defense (cough, cough), could his family not sue the state and federal governments for their unreasonable denial of his right to protection and pursuit of etc. ?






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CamdenTiger
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Holder is just being a dick.


Agree, the gun offers nothing. Its the weapon used, and there was no doubt by anyone....






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TheLankiestLawyer
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If they were to charge him with a federal hate crime, they would still need to prove the actual crime occurred. The "hate" part of that phrase refers to his intent in committing the crime, but they would still have to prove he shot Martin, and for that, they would need the gun.

And to those saying Zimmerman's attorneys could stipulate that is the gun- you can't stipulate to something if there are no ongoing proceedings.






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Alatgr
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as far as wanting to preserve the integrity and chain of custody of the evidence


How the flaming frick is the gun going to shed any light on whether the shooting was motivated by any racial animus? Where the frick does the DOJ and Eric Holder think they get the authority to tell the state whether to follow its own laws?

This total bull shite political witch hunt is making me fricking apoplectic. Holder is the anti-Christ.






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TheLankiestLawyer
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Agree, the gun offers nothing. Its the weapon used, and there was no doubt by anyone....


It is still necessary to prove an element of the crime. Are you suggesting we start cutting corners?






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TheLankiestLawyer
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I understand you guys loathe Holder, but he's not out of bounds on this (insofar as the preservation of the evidence, not whether to charge or not).






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Alahunter
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I'd suggest they don't infringe on his Constitutional Rights and stop the witch hunt that's going on.





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Libertyabides71
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I understand you guys loathe Holder, but he's not out of bounds on this (insofar as the preservation of the evidence, not whether to charge or not)


Holder follow the law? That is a damn miracle.






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OneFifty
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While my wife was becoming a nurse practitioner, she did some rotations in the ER. She once witnessed a gentleman admitted with a small derringer lodged in his rectum. His gun was returned to him after it was safely removed.

To avoid getting off subject, I won't dare mention the woman who required stitches because her German Shepherd got rowdy during coitus.






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Five0
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Oh this thread.





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