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THRILLHO
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


Yeah, if they deal Vasquez/Smiht/Lopez, then I'll be a bit worried about the bench. As of now, you can't really ask for a better backup frontcourt and Vasquez will be a very good 3rd guard. Relying on one of Roberts/Rivers being decent isn't that big of a risk to take. That would leave us with Miller being the only possible weak spot on the bench.





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GynoSandberg
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


I think the West if overrated as far as having a bunch of top teams.

Regardless of what people say, OKC is the top dawg in the West (with a healthy RW). Then obviously you have the Spurs. Id throw LAC 3rd with Doc coming in.

After that? Memphis, Denver, GS,... those teams aren't far apart from the Houstons and New Orleans of the world.

I really believe the West is going to be wide open. A lot of the lower tier teams are getting better and will be ready to compete with the middle tier of teams next season. It could be anyone's game






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Alan Garner
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


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Noel WILL be a bust. Every PF and C in the league is going to be able to box his 200-lb frame out easily, he has Andrew Bynum's knees, and rookie Dwight Howard's post moves.


i agree with everything you said except this:
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he has Andrew Bynum's knees


dude tore his ACL on a freak accident at UF running into the basket. lets not get carried away.






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RonBurgundy
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


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Regardless of what people say, OKC is the top dawg in the West (with a healthy RW). Then obviously you have the Spurs.


That's incorrect man, the Spurs were well ahead of the Thunder. Keep in mind that Harden was the difference between the two teams last year, after he left, OKC looks pretty mediocre on offense.

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Id throw LAC 3rd with Doc coming in.


Probably

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Memphis, Denver, GS ..Houstons and New Orleans of the world.


Your trick is lumping the Rockets and NOLA together. They aren't on the same level.

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I really believe the West is going to be wide open


I see it as a four team race(Memphis,OKC,SA,LAC),so yeah kind of open. If Houston/Dallas land Howard then watch out. Spurs are going to have some cap room to, btw. Also, the Wolves if Love and Rubio are healthy-(with Pek) are as good as any lower tier team in the West.






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TIGERSby10
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


After Demps gets us our quality SF, everyone will forget about the trade and be pumped about the season.





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GynoSandberg
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That's incorrect man, the Spurs were well ahead of the Thunder. Keep in mind that Harden was the difference between the two teams last year, after he left, OKC looks pretty mediocre on offense.


OKC was the 1 seed in the west, 2nd best record in the league and were 3rd in the NBA in scoring. They were the clear cut #2 in the league until Westbrook went down.

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Your trick is lumping the Rockets and NOLA together. They aren't on the same level.


IDK, they snuck in as an 8 seed and lost to a Westbrook-less OKC team. What are we looking at here? Harden and Parsons as your main cogs with Asik and Lin playing important roles. After that you have an upcoming Montejunas and that's about it. Granted, they have moves to be made but so does the Pels.

To me, it boils down to the core of these teams. Who are the best 3 or 4 players and what guys do you have to compliment them? I feel the Pels have that core in place and now all Dell has to do is plug and play.

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I see it as a four team race(Memphis,OKC,SA,LAC),so yeah kind of open. If Houston/Dallas land Howard then watch out. Spurs are going to have some cap room to, btw. Also, the Wolves if Love and Rubio are healthy-(with Pek) are as good as any lower tier team in the West.


The top 3 or 4 teams are rock solid. The Howard watch is important to the balance of the West. And I agree about the Wolves, they could be dangerous. I put them in the NOLA/HOU category of teams.






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VOR
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


I want to say that Howard's destination determines a lot. The thing is I'm not certain if its a positive or a negative for whoever gets emo child.





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Broski
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Member since Jun 2011
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whoever gets emo child.


We can't really make fun of that scenario, considering we are locked in with a similar personality for the next 2 or 3 years.






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RonBurgundy
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


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OKC was the 1 seed in the west, 2nd best record in the league and were 3rd in the NBA in scoring. They were the clear cut #2 in the league until Westbrook went down.



The Spurs ceded the number 1 seed in March.They don't care about the regular season. OKC pressed for it.Denver was the #3 seed, no one really thought they were going to be contenders. OKC had scoring, because of great isolation scorers. Without one of them their offensive system is non-existent. Last year they had the advantage of a PnR player like Harden who was the difference in the series. The Spurs were the better team.


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they snuck in as an 8 seed and lost to a Westbrook-less OKC team. What are we looking at here? Harden and Parsons as your main cogs with Asik and Lin playing important roles.


Asik is an elite rim protector, Harden is the best shooting guard in the game right now.He is well ahead of anyone on the Pels roster. Parsons may not have Gordon's ceiling, but his impact is a little greater(on both sides of the court). Lin battled through injuries, but can be good sixth man. The Rockets are loaded with assets, something that can be flipped or developed.






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GynoSandberg
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


EG shows up in 2013?



We were talking about an elite SG before the brutal rash of injuries.

Gordon
Davis
Holiday

Anderson as the wild card

Harden
Parsons
Asik

Montejunas as the wild card




I agree that HOU has assets, but it remains to be seen what they do with them. If they get Howard, they may become the team to beat in the West. Of course, Howard can be a cancer so who knows?






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Gtothemoney
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


I'd take our 3, but Harden is a beast.





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RonBurgundy
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


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EG shows up in 2013?


your per game stats are nice, but the advanced metrics say other wise.

Look at WS, WS/48, PER, STL%,AST%, TS%.

Bottom line, Harden is a better shooter, goes to the line, is a better distributor and better defender (not that either of them is great) and of course is a better athlete than Gordon.

Gordon could a be a top 5 SG. Harden is on the cusp of being a top 5 player






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Fearthehat0307
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


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Gordon could a be a top 5 SG.
i'll take it






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VOR
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
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Member since Apr 2009
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


This metrics shite sounds great (I'm a believer in science). The problem is it has serious failings in sports in certain situations.

A health, committed Gordon plus Holiday plus Davis is pretty fricking good. Wurd.






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JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


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They don't care about the regular season.


Smart too. This strategy paid dividends in game 7 of the finals.






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RonBurgundy
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re: Even if you don't agree with the trade, have faith in Demps...


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Smart too. This strategy got them to game 7 of the finals.


FIFY.






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