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Quentin Compson
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You mean those green pieces of paper you hate so much?
Prices would be set, obviously.






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HempHead
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Prices would be set, obviously.


By whom?






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Quentin Compson
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How does one determine the salaries to be paid?
It would be related to the prices set.






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Quentin Compson
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By whom?
The department that deals with that particular thing being produced.






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memphis tiger
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Prices would be set, obviously


How would these prices be determined?

What if the price of something you wanted was still more than you could afford?

What about answering my other questions?






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HempHead
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The department that deals with that particular thing being produced.


How does one become involved in the department?

Who is in charge of the production and distribution of currency?






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Quentin Compson
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Who is in charge of the production and distribution of currency?
some other agency, probably.






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memphis tiger
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Again, are you advocating slavery.

If I labor to produce a product, why should you be entitled to it for free?

Why should the government decide what my labor is worth?

if I overvalue my labor, nobody will buy my product and I can freely choose to starve or lower my asking price.

If the state decides what I get and provides everything for me and everyone else, why should I work at all?






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Quentin Compson
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How does one become involved in the department?
Ability and testing.






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HempHead
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Ability and testing.


Who creates the tests?

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Some other agency, probably


I see.

If these people do a poor job (which is kind of hard to tell, since the consumers of their services have no valid way of retracting their patronage), how are they replaced?

Do the people in charge of these departments get paid more by their 'government salaries' than a factory worker?






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You confusing the difference between RIGHTS and PRIVILEGES. Most people who are looking for a handout and are to lazy to work make this mistake.

You have the freedom to get off your lazy arse and get an education and a good paying job or you have the freedom to sit there and complain.

This is what is wrong with America.






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Quentin Compson
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Do the people in charge of these departments get paid more by their 'government salaries' than a factory worker?
yea






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Quentin Compson
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You have the freedom to get off your lazy arse and get an education
if you can afford






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memphis tiger
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re: Is freedom often an illusion?


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Do the people in charge of these departments get paid more by their 'government salaries' than a factory worker?


yea



So they can get nicer things than the rest of us. (You do realize that in that single word answer, you contradicted your entire argument?)

I thought everybody would have everything?

How can this be so if some people make a higher slaary than others.

Now:

Again, are you advocating slavery.

If I labor to produce a product, why should you be entitled to it for free?

Why should the government decide what my labor is worth?

if I overvalue my labor, nobody will buy my product and I can freely choose to starve or lower my asking price.

If the state decides what I get and provides everything for me and everyone else, why should I work at all?



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Quentin Compson
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So they can get nicer things than the rest of us.
No, prices would be set and salaries would be set so everyone could have access to goods.






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HempHead
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No, prices would be set and salaries would be set so everyone could have access to goods.


If he makes more than the factory worker, then it follows that he has access to more goods.






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Quentin Compson
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If he makes more than the factory worker, then it follows that he has access to more goods.
No, higher pay is meant only to induce incentive.






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HempHead
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No, higher pay is meant only to induce incentive.


What incentive is there, if not access to more material goods? How else would additional salary be considered a benefit?






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memphis tiger
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No, prices would be set and salaries would be set so everyone could have access to goods.


But you said they get higher salaries.

So either they can buy more/nicer things or in your system slary is meaningless and we get whatever the precious STATE decides to grant us.

Now, how about finally addressing these questions:

Again, are you advocating slavery.

If I labor to produce a product, why should you be entitled to it for free?

Why should the government decide what my labor is worth?

if I overvalue my labor, nobody will buy my product and I can freely choose to starve or lower my asking price.

If the state decides what I get and provides everything for me and everyone else, why should I work at all?






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memphis tiger
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re: Is freedom often an illusion?


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No, higher pay is meant only to induce incentive.


Whats's the incentive to work if my higher salary doesn't get me anything?

In your system salary means nothing and we are nothing more than slaves.






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