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Players in College Baseball - 90's vs Today

Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:41 pm
Posted by The Lodge
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:41 pm
Anyone else notice a significant difference in sizes of college baseball in the 90s versus today's players? Were steroids as prevalent in college then as they were in MLB?

I look at our team today and then the 96 and even 2000 team, and it seems to be very different.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

Were steroids as prevalent in college then as they were in MLB?


Yes. x100
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:43 pm to
Different in what way?
Posted by The Lodge
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:45 pm to
Just seem to be much larger in size. Obviously the bats were very different, but today's players just seem to be much smaller than those in the 90s.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88088 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:49 pm to
The long answer:

The game is different from back then as well. Laird or Stevenson would never have gotten a glance by LSU back then. But with the bats downgrade and better overall pitching (depth and relievers), having fast, agile players has much more value today.

There were steroids in College just as much as anywhere else. It was easy to get and wasn't tested for. They liked to look big (see the small jerseys on some) and HRs were the name of the game, not defense unless you played up the middle.
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:50 pm to
If you look at 1998 for example they had 12 players at or over 200 lbs this year there are 5
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:50 pm to
I noticed that as well when watching those 90s video highlights that were posted. They dwarf the players on our team now
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1435 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 8:05 pm to
I always said the LSU Baseball team was filled with reject tight ends, ha! There were some big dudes through the years. The little guys can play, too. I have been listening and watching, when it was possible, since the early 1980's. I have really enjoyed the Mainieri years. The "Smoked" years were tough!
Posted by Gulffisherman
Bogalusa
Member since Oct 2009
3531 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 8:20 pm to
Between the roids of the 90's and players staying a full 4 years, grown men were playing in that day and age; many of the starters were 4th year seniors vs many starters today being freshmen right out of high school.....

Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 8:51 pm to
Geauxrilla Ball requires geauxrillas!
Posted by Panthera Tigris
Tampa Bay
Member since Jun 2007
669 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:31 pm to
I met Lyle Mouton a few years ago , and everyone in my family thought he was an ex-LSU football player. The dude is HUGE. I immediately realized why he hit so many homeruns. He would dwarf any of today's players.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Different in what way?


Well for one LSU players look like horse jockeys.

Dudes are tiny. Would be driving giant trucks to compensate for little man syndrome if they weren't ball players.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:04 pm to
Completely agree, the guys that played at LSU in the 2nd half of the 90's looked like football players. Like the bugs bunny cartoon it was giants with huge arms using a telephone pole for a baseball bat. I'm not really gonna speculate on the ped angle, but during that era it appeared as though several players had swallowed a beer keg and it was stuck in their chest. Chad Cooley, Morris,, Barbier, Furnis (spellings off and I'm forgetting players) but point should get through. The game has changed so maybe it makes sense, but I really miss the year when LSU hit what 188 home runs. Home runs are fun. I enjoy doing my home run dance
Posted by CyrustheVirus
Member since Jan 2013
2909 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

The game is different from back then as well. Laird or Stevenson would never have gotten a glance by LSU back then. But with the bats downgrade and better overall pitching (depth and relievers), having fast, agile players has much more value today.

There were steroids in College just as much as anywhere else. It was easy to get and wasn't tested for. They liked to look big (see the small jerseys on some) and HRs were the name of the game, not defense unless you played up the middle.



100% accurate. Well said.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:44 pm to
I just watched a clip of the 2000 champ game, Barbier and Cresse on that juice
Posted by KT70
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
1272 posts
Posted on 6/15/13 at 6:13 am to
Wes Davis disagrees with this thread!
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70039 posts
Posted on 6/15/13 at 6:17 am to
i still never fully understood the size issue for baseball.

other than pitchers i dont think any other personnel really needs peds. im not sure if they really help hand to eye coordination. you cant get as stronger as you like but you still cant hit what you cant see.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88088 posts
Posted on 6/15/13 at 6:36 am to
quote:

other than pitchers i dont think any other personnel really needs peds. im not sure if they really help hand to eye coordination. you cant get as stronger as you like but you still cant hit what you cant see.


Hitting is not as simple as just seeing the ball and hand-eye coordination. There's bat speed and torque as well on the technical side. But what it comes down to is turning fly-ball outs into HRs. That by itself raises almost every statistical category.
Posted by CyrustheVirus
Member since Jan 2013
2909 posts
Posted on 6/15/13 at 8:02 am to
quote:

other than pitchers i dont think any other personnel really needs peds. im not sure if they really help hand to eye coordination. you cant get as stronger as you like but you still cant hit what you cant see.


Hitting is not as simple as just seeing the ball and hand-eye coordination. There's bat speed and torque as well on the technical side. But what it comes down to is turning fly-ball outs into HRs. That by itself raises almost every statistical category.


Again, Couldnt have said it better myself. You're on a hot streak...
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28291 posts
Posted on 6/15/13 at 8:10 am to
It was called gorilla ball. And they had chainsaws for a penis.
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