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How do I buy some of this Vangard stuff you speak of ?

Posted on 5/26/13 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/26/13 at 8:07 pm
Well, I admit it... I'm old, don't have a plan, have money scattered here and there, and currently have too much cash sitting in checking accounts.

How old? Almost 50.

Scattered where? Wife, big company plan with a nice huge chunk, IRA... I think she's set for retirement, also have confident have kid's college set.

I have a simple retirement fund (sep?) that I contribute my max to, and have rolled past 401k funds into one fund account, and spread them into about 3 funds based on a particular advisor's suggestion. Said advisor works for a particular company that charges heavy front load, so I want to do something else with my now extra money...

How can I Vangard? 3 minute lesson?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98973 posts
Posted on 5/26/13 at 8:29 pm to
less than 3 minutes

LINK
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/26/13 at 8:47 pm to
Thanks Yellowfin.

I browsed some previous threads and see discussion of mutual funds vs. ETF's.

What's an ETF, and should I consider it?

I see where someone else was trying to diversify stocks, and also have a bond fund strategy. Seems to make sense?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/26/13 at 9:57 pm to
ETFs
Exchange traded fund.

Really low fees
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 5/26/13 at 10:41 pm to
Are you near a brick-n-mortar Scottrade (Baton Rouge, Shreveport), or Charles Schwab? Go see them and tell them you want to buy some mutual funds (and/or ETF's) through Vanguard.

Vanguard is in Penn, NC and Ariz. But they do business everywhere
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 5/26/13 at 11:51 pm to
Go to vanguard.com and open an account. You can be up and running in about 15 minutes. You will link the account to your checking account so you can move money in and out of your investments. I did this for my sister-in-law when she came into an inheritance a few years ago. It couldn't be easier.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 7:49 am to
Thank you gentlemen.

Based on Yellowfin's suggestion, I opened an account on the Vanguard site.

I have a Scottrade account, didn't realize I could've done it there. Good to know. Yes, I'm one of the ignorant ones mentioned here often...

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Are you near a brick-n-mortar Scottrade (Baton Rouge, Shreveport), or Charles Schwab? Go see them and tell them you want to buy some mutual funds (and/or ETF's) through Vanguard.

Vanguard is in Penn, NC and Ariz. But they do business everywhere





No, don't do this. Go straight to Vanguard.com. Don't pay fees to a brick and mortar brokerage.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:46 pm to
Surely the answer to this question is, "of course, you can add money to any of your funds at anytime."


I bought into several funds, most at the minimum of $3000. Surely I don't have to contribute the minimum each time I want to add money to it, right?

One other question, is it risky to put too much of one's money into one fund "company"? ie Vanguard, Fidelity, etc?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/27/13 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

One other question, is it risky to put too much of one's money into one fund "company"? ie Vanguard, Fidelity, etc?


Not really. But different families have different strengths, for example.: Vanguard is the best index funds, Fidelity and American Funds are better at activelymmanaged funds. So I've got some money in all 3.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53510 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 5:29 pm to
I wondered the same question a time back, if I should put aside how much I like Vanguard's philosophies and offerings and diversify.

But hypothetically speaking....improbabilities aside, what happens to my ETFs if Vanguard folds?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/27/13 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

what happens to my ETFs if Vanguard folds?


Unlike mutual funds, which create new shares each time an investor adds money to the fund (the fund's share price is not affected by number of shares but rather the NAV) ETF's have a finite number of shares. If the ETF's company were to go belly up, the securities inside would be liquidated and distributed to the shareholders (and the taxes would frick you in the arse)But the Fund's assets aren't collectible by creditors if the firm files for bankruptcy. Unless it's a leveraged ETF, then the fund must pay it's debts before paying share holders, in which case you could lose a chunk from your original investment.

Now, you really wouldn't have to worry about that with a firm like Vanguard, since they are client owned. Each fund in the Vanguard family is an individual separate entity that supports the parent company VGI. For VGI to go bankrupt, every fund in the Vanguard family would have to go broke. For even 1 fund to go broke, the value of every stock/bond/reit inside the fund would have to hit 0. If that happens, we all have much bigger problems than investing, better have a gun, some bottled water, and some soup.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/27/13 at 6:18 pm to
How many of you invest in index funds aside from what you put in an IRA, 401k, ect?
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