Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing... - Page 5 - TigerDroppings.com

Posted byMessage
Patrick O Rly
New Orleans Saints Fan
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
38223 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


BOOM.

ETA: Grrrrrrrr, but they're not suppose to be here! Rabble rabble!



This post was edited on 5/26 at 9:30 am


Back to top
GeauxxxTigers23
USA Fan
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
22873 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

Additionally we benefit from their labor anyway. I get that we should want people to come here through the proper immigration channels but I just don't think illegal immigrants are the big boogeyman that everyone points them out to be.


When they are given amnesty and access to SS, Medicare, Medicaid and welfare that net positive will disappear overnight.

quote:

It's just people who worship the law and think that it must be enforced at all times.


WTF dude? Who decides what laws to enforce then. And against whom to enforce them. So we should pick and chose against whom and under what circumstances to apply the law? Why even have laws?



This post was edited on 5/26 at 9:34 am


Back to top
  Replies (0)
Mike da Tigah
St. Denham Rougeville
Member since Feb 2005
41252 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

Additionally we benefit from their labor anyway


If there is a gap in the labor force, why is it that we don't have American citizens living off the government's tit filling those positions?

Truth is, we don't want to pay more for food for example because we are accustomed to its current value and price in the market place. That is as much a current reality and something we've become accustomed to and our economy accepted than a driving force behind our need for cheap labor.

In any case, I find the argument for needing illegal immigrants to work for cheap while we have Americans sitting on their collective asses collecting a check pretty fricked up.







Back to top
Tigah in the ATL
LSU Fan
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
24868 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

the Dutch!!

wrong country






Back to top
CerealKilla
SMU Fan
Das Boot
Member since Jan 2011
6098 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


An alien's illegal presence in the country is not a criminal violation, but a civil violation. Police may only stop those who they reasonable believe are involved in criminal activity. Here, Maricopa County Sheriff's Office were basing arrests and detentions on non-criminal violations, and therefore violated the 4th amendment.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
Powerman
LSU Fan
Corpus Christi, TX
Member since Jan 2004
120581 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:


If there is a gap in the labor force, why is it that we don't have American citizens living off the government's tit filling those positions?


Probably for the same reason they aren't in a lab doing research...they aren't skilled enough to do the work

Or if the work is unskilled labor they're too lazy to do it or it isn't worth their time because of what they get from the state

Deporting illegals is a futile attempt to solve a problem without looking at the root causes of the problem. That's if it is even a problem, and I don't think it is.
quote:


In any case, I find the argument for needing illegal immigrants to work for cheap while we have Americans sitting on their collective asses collecting a check pretty fricked up.


Some of these immigrants probably make above the median income






Back to top
Mike da Tigah
St. Denham Rougeville
Member since Feb 2005
41252 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

they're too lazy to do it


This







Back to top
Powerman
LSU Fan
Corpus Christi, TX
Member since Jan 2004
120581 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:



This


You know this. Yet you're asking why they won't do it.

You can't force someone into a particular occupation.






Back to top
SlowFlowPro
Stanford Fan
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
295885 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

they're too lazy to do it

quote:

This

i disagree. it just doesn't make economic sense to give up the government benies

we can have a free flow of immigration or a vast welfare state, but not both. i prefer the former






Back to top
Godfather1
Army Fan
SE Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
31872 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

That guy is a piece of shite. I have no sympathy for him.


And I'm sure your disapproval keeps him awake nights.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
Jbird
Iowa Fan
In Odramaville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
16563 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

but they're not suppose to be here!


Well then by all means let's simply throw the door open to everyone and everyone, it is all a net positive right?






Back to top
Mike da Tigah
St. Denham Rougeville
Member since Feb 2005
41252 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

You know this. Yet you're asking why they won't do it. You can't force someone into a particular occupation.


WE enable that behavior.

If a person if faced with the proposition of work or going hungry and not having a place to sleep, they will pick work, even if that job isn't necessarily what they want to do or will do for the rest of their lives. It is work. It's why I work, and I've done plenty of work I felt was beneath me, and took the attitude that I would determine in myself to be the best I could at it with the hopes that I would get a better job, and I did, and so on.

However, when you don't require a person to just get to first base, nay, swing the bat, then I guarantee you they will never progress.









Back to top
Mike da Tigah
St. Denham Rougeville
Member since Feb 2005
41252 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

we can have a free flow of immigration or a vast welfare state, but not both. i prefer the former


That makes no sense. One enables the other to remain.







Back to top
CerealKilla
SMU Fan
Das Boot
Member since Jan 2011
6098 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


Any good Tea Party Patriot should be disgusted that the Constituition was violated, right?





Back to top
SlowFlowPro
Stanford Fan
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
295885 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

One enables the other to remain.

no shit






Back to top
  Replies (0)
Mike da Tigah
St. Denham Rougeville
Member since Feb 2005
41252 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

Any good Tea Party Patriot should be disgusted that the Constituition was violated, right?


You don't have to be a tea partier to be offended that our federal government is derelict in its duties to protecting the states from invasion. You just have to believe in sovereignty, and the constitution.







Back to top
SlowFlowPro
Stanford Fan
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
295885 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

Any good Tea Party Patriot should be disgusted that the Constituition was violated, right?

well we can play this game. What words of the constitution does this system contradict?






Back to top
CerealKilla
SMU Fan
Das Boot
Member since Jan 2011
6098 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


Don't deflect. A government official violated the Constituition. You should be outraged, perhaps host a rally.





Back to top
SlowFlowPro
Stanford Fan
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
295885 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


quote:

A government official violated the Constituition.

i'm pretty sure they violated federal law and not the constitution






Back to top
CerealKilla
SMU Fan
Das Boot
Member since Jan 2011
6098 posts

re: Sherriff Joe Arpaio punished for effective policing...


The right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.





Back to top
  Replies (0)


Back to top