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Patrick O Rly
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What have these Hispanics done outside of crossing some imaginary border?





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We get it dude. You don't believe in borders or laws or anything else associated with the real world. But they come over here with nothing and then the rest of the tax payers have to pay for their health care and children's education. Let's not forget that we're not getting the cream of the crop from Mexico. Not to mention the cartel problem.





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Mike da Tigah
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What have these Hispanics done outside of crossing some imaginary border?


Imaginary border?

National sovereignty is now imaginary?

Let me tell you something. If you don't have a say in who crosses your own border and who is allowed to remain, then you are not a sovereign nation. You are a fricking joke, and the rest of the world laughs at you, and well they should because you are a joke.




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It is to him.





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Patrick O Rly
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I merely asking this in the present time, practical sense.

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But they come over here with nothing and then the rest of the tax payers have to pay for their health care and children's education.


They generally are more productive members than many of our "citizens" collecting these benefits. All of them pay sales tax, and many of them are paying federal taxes under phony documents.

But fear not: your lords and saviors will simply ask the FED to press a button and create more money in the event that the immigrants use it all.

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Let's not forget that we're not getting the cream of the crop from Mexico.


Cheap labor is worth it's weight in gold at the grocery store. Would you prefer unionized farm hands?

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Not to mention the cartel problem.


You can thank our asinine drug policies for that.






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Imaginary border?

National sovereignty is now imaginary?


Unless they've painted it, the border is very much imaginary. National sovereignty is non sense.

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Let me tell you something. If you don't have a say in who crosses your own border and who is allowed to remain, then you are not a sovereign nation. You are a fricking joke, and the rest of the world laughs at you, and well they should because you are a joke.


What makes you think the government wants to keep people from crossing the border?






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Mike da Tigah
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National sovereignty is non sense


Idealistic drivel. Tell that to the rest of the civilized world. Tell them their borders mean nothing and invasion is eminent and they have nothing to say about it.







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"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion;

Article IV, Section 4
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Patrick O Rly
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Idealistic dribble.





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Tell that to the rest of the civilized world.


I will.

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Tell them their borders mean nothing and invasion is eminent and they have nothing to say about it.




Where are the borders?

I will tell them that there's a ruling and political class that claim and maintain control of a certain geographic area through force, and that they've come to identify with them, but it really means nothing because they'll kill you or send you off to be killed if it suits them.

If I'm in a dispute with my neighbor, and I surround him and don't allow anyone/anything to leave or come in, and one of his children dies from malnutrition, I'd be guilty of murder.

If these same actions are done by a governing body, then it's the actions of a sovereign nation, and not criminal at all.

I reject national sovereignty because it completely flips right and wrong on it's head. Murder becomes collateral damage. Theft becomes taxation. Stalking becomes surveillance.






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Invasion of cheap labor?







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I reject national sovereignty because it completely flips right and wrong on it's head. Murder becomes collateral damage. Theft becomes taxation. Stalking becomes surveillance.


I know you think you're cool and edgy and enlightened and all but in reality you're the naive one.

Grow up dude. You're dream of a world with no borders is never going to happen. Ever. Get over it or you'll just be angry your whole life.






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Mike da Tigah
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You're idealistic because your entire "we are the world" holding hands bull shite revolves around an unrealistic understanding of man and his nature. Its childish. Borders keep the garbage at bay and power hungry animals out of your business.

The whole idea that we have the capacity to absorb the third world and better their condition while retaining our own standard of living is not only childish and irresponsible, but it's impossible to achieve without destroying your way of life and the lives of those who have poured their blood, sweat, and tears into building this nation and keeping it free.

The true irony in your comments is that they come on Memorial Day Weekend. Chew on that for a while today.







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I'm 30 years old and have 3 children. This has nothing to do with being edgy. The conclusions I've come are the result of a lot of thought. It's been accelerated by the birth of my first child over 4 years ago, because I realized that I was going to be his main source for teaching of right and wrong.

I'm not going to teach my children that morality changes because it's done by the government. If that were the case, then aborting children would be perfectly fine because sanctioned courts rule it was legal.






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Mike da Tigah
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I'm not going to teach my children that morality changes because it's done by the government. If that were the case, then aborting children would be perfectly fine because sanctioned courts rule it was legal.


Today's 30 is apparently still very much half baked if you think that morality comes from the government. You perhaps need to do a little more thinking on the matter before you instill that half baked BS in your kids.







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You guys are really mad at the welfare state, but then you focus your anger at people seeking a better life for themselves and their families. The irony of you self professed small government conservatives calling for more deportations and increased security is thick.

Our way of life is propped up through debt and phony money, and there's plenty more where that came from.






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Same thing for Pedro who looks Hispanic and can't speak a lick of English. As long as they are stopped or approached with some suspicion or violation of the law, he's not breaking any laws.

How can they tell that they can't speak English before they pull them over?

If you think that pulling someone over simply because they look like they MIGHT be an illegal Alien is not unlawful then you are absolutely insane.






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Patrick O Rly
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Today's 30 is apparently still very much half baked if you think that morality comes from the government. You perhaps need to do a little more thinking on the matter before you instill that half baked BS in your kids.


derp.

That had nothing to do with what I said. My statement was a rejection of moral relativity.






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Mike da Tigah
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You guys are really mad at the welfare state, but then you focus your anger at people seeking a better life for themselves and their families.


I focus my attentions on unfettered access to American tax payer dollars and our economy by those who do not have permission to be here, and are here illegally.

You want to worsen that condition.

Want to help the third world better their condition?

Become a missionary and encourage them to take control of their third world and better their condition WHERE THEY LIVE, IN THE 3RD WORLD....


that is NOT the role of America or the duty of tax payers without their consent. That is the role of people who have a desire for it, and it's done in the 3rd world where you have the capacity to really affect their condition.








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I focus my attentions on unfettered access to American tax payer dollars and our economy by those who do not have permission to be here, and are here illegally.

You want to worsen that condition.

Illegal Aliens actually make a net positive contribution to the treasury

Which is more than you can say of the poor that live here legally

Additionally we benefit from their labor anyway. I get that we should want people to come here through the proper immigration channels but I just don't think illegal immigrants are the big boogeyman that everyone points them out to be.

It's just people who worship the law and think that it must be enforced at all times.






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Belgians There's only two types of people I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's culture and the Dutch!!


I had a Belgian co-worker years ago. She was always bitchin' about the Dutch.
Me: "So, why do you hate the Dutch?"
Her: "They won't stay on their side of the border and they want people to speak their stupid language."






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