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The Muslims claim, "it is only a few extremists." However, their silence is a ringing endorsement of terrorism.



Even if it is true that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and loving, in the words of Hillary Clinton," what difference does it make" if they aren't the ones in power? Their refusal to contain and control the so called roque element of their religion is a tacit enforcement of their behaviour.






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SammyTiger
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Even if it is true that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and loving, in the words of Hillary Clinton," what difference does it make" if they aren't the ones in power? Their refusal to contain and control the so called roque element of their religion is a tacit enforcement of their behaviour.


Because it is really easy to control the part of your population willing to strap a bomb in their chest.






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Because it is really easy to control the part of your population willing to strap a bomb in their chest.



So you are saying that if indeed a vast majority of Muslims wanted peace in their country, they are powerless to do anything about it? I say B.S.
You are trying to have it two ways. On one hand you want to pretend that Islam is not the problem and its only a fringe element behind the terror. And on the other hand, you say the majority can't stop or control the radicals. Well, what are they radical about? And what religion do these radicals belong to? I'll tell you, Islam. It isn't Catholics, Baptist, Methodist, episcopalians, Mormons, Amish or any other sect causing the problems, its Islam. And Islam is the problem. So unless they want to get rid of Islam and their Koran and its teachings that all non Muslims are infidels, than yes, Muslims are the problem.



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SammyTiger
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So you are saying that if indeed a vast majority of Muslims wanted peace in their country, they are powerless to do anything about it? I say B.S.


They're scared. Standing up to the people with guns, bombs are scary. Why didn't the people overthrow the soviets? Why don't the people of North Korea overthrow Their dictator?






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They're scared. Standing up to the people with guns, bombs are scary. Why didn't the people overthrow the soviets? Why don't the people of North Korea overthrow Their dictator?



So only the radical elements in Islam are allowed to have guns?
Let me give you a few examples how the radical element could be stopped if the people wanted to.

One, stop teaching your children that everyone that is not Muslim
is a Infidel.

Two, whenever a group of the so called peaceful portion of the majority hears a fringe element talking about; bombings, beheadings, jihad, etc. the peace loving bunch should drag them behind the hut and whip their asses.

If these two things only would happen, there would be far fewer people willing to strap on bombs.
Plus please read my amended post above for further clarification.






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SammyTiger
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One, stop teaching your children that everyone that is not Muslim
is a Infidel.


I am sure parents do teach their children that, just like people teach their children not to join gangs, but people still do. Despite their upbringings young men look for belonging, and when they live in less than ideal situations are usually angry and easily manipulated

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Two, whenever a group of the so called peaceful portion of the majority hears a fringe element talking about; bombings, beheadings, jihad, etc. the peace loving bunch should drag them behind the hut and whip their asses.


Why do you think they al just know these things are going to happen and let it? Do you think the local shepherd is going to kick the shite out of the guys with the Ak 47s?

I am sorry but radical catholic blow up abortion clinics. Radical Mormons force underage girls to marry old men. You can find much of the violence in the Quran in the old testament, but circumstances have lead to jews not generally being a violent people.




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StrangeBrew
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but radical catholic blow up abortion clinics



1/10






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LSUconvert
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SammyTiger



I honestly don't know why you give the effort, he hates because he is uneducated and scared. I would put the effort towards someone who is more likely to educate themselves, rather than just put a blindfold on because the diversity scares them.



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SammyTiger
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but radical catholic blow up abortion clinics



1/10


Sorry how about burn witches, and exile/torture/ execute jews? Was catholicism an inherently violent, impossible to live with religion 400 years ago? or were some people a little off in their practice?






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I honestly don't know why you give the effort, he hates because he is uneducated and scared. I would put the effort towards someone who is more likely to educate themselves, rather than just put a blindfold on because the diversity scares them.



Who are you referring to do say?






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dontreup0321
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I would put the effort towards someone who is more likely to educate themselves, rather than just put a blindfold on because the diversity scares them.


This

When I joined the Marine Corps in 2005 I was ignorant to the fact that not all Muslims were terrorists. Then I worked hand in hand with Iraq and Afghan Muslims to fight the "radicals." Then I got back state side and decided to educate myself through literature and interactions with American Muslims. Islam is a peaceful religion that has been hijacked by radicals with political ambitions that use the religion as a rallying cry.






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StrangeBrew
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Can you name the last time a radical Catholic blew up an abortion clinic? I can name the last time a Muslim killed in Allahs name. TODAY





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SammyTiger
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I honestly don't know why you give the effort, he hates because he is uneducated and scared. I would put the effort towards someone who is more likely to educate themselves, rather than just put a blindfold on because the diversity scares them.


I love the arguement. I'm usually very board, and i love the expression of free speech that goes on here.






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SammyTiger
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Can you name the last time a radical Catholic blew up an abortion clinic? I can name the last time a Muslim killed in Allahs name. TODAY


But does it happening make christianity a inherently violent religion? If the spanish inquisition wasn't enough to condemn all of catholicism why is this enough to condemn all of Islam? Because people are better at killing each other now?






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Revelator
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When I joined the Marine Corps in 2005 I was ignorant to the fact that not all Muslims were terrorists. Then I worked hand in hand with Iraq and Afghan Muslims to fight the "radicals." Then I got back state side and decided to educate myself through literature and interactions with American Muslims. Islam is a peaceful religion that has been hijacked by radicals with political ambitions that use the religion as a rallying cry.



That's all wonderful and fine, but even if your premiss was correct, how does that help the world if the majority does nothing to curb the actions of the radicals in their own religion?






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LSUconvert
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Who are you referring to do say?



I can't tell what you're saying, I'm going to assume you're asking who I am referring to you.

I'm referring to you.






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SammyTiger
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That's all wonderful and fine, but even if your premiss was correct, how does that help the world if the majority does nothing to curb the actions of the radicals in their own religion?


Did oyu read what he said?

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Then I worked hand in hand with Iraq and Afghan Muslims to fight the "radicals."


what does that seem like to you?






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LSUconvert
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Do you know how many people belong to Islam?

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if the majority does nothing to curb the actions of the radicals in their own religion?



I was going to take two seconds to formulate an analogy to make this clear for you. But at this point in your life if you can't understand this pretty basic concept, it's not worth it.






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Revelator
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Nm


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LSUconvert
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The Koran is very clear about what Islam is and how it should treat non believers.



Oh ya?

You've read it in arabic?


Not only are you ignorant, you have no idea that you're ignorant.

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Well I'm neither scared, uneducated or is my opinion about Islam based on hate


1.I assume you are, though I can't really no.
2. THis I know for a fact, because you speak about the "koran" as if you've read it. (reading it in english doesn't count, if you'd like an explanation I'd be happy to oblige)
3. Again, another assumption based off of your ignorance.



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