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re: Sharia banking

Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:18 pm to
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And he believed in bitcoins.



No they believe in arse pennies, there's a difference.
Posted by GrantTheFan
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:23 pm to
The company I work for sells, among other things, a core banking software system that has an Islamic Banking module. I don't know much about it, but on my last assignment I worked with a guy that specializes in it and he told me that behind the scenes, everything processes just like normal loans/deposits, but the front end is built to display accounts/products as interest free. I'm curious about refi's now, I'll shoot him an email tomorrow.
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:05 am to
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I'm curious about refi's now, I'll shoot him an email tomorrow.


Please update here, I'm curious about this. My initial guess is that the cash flows are about the same but I wonder how they present things to satisfy the clerics.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:18 am to
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Hey now, slow down there hoss


Actually, I kinda like hummus
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 7:47 am to
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Actually, I kinda like hummus
Me, too....but it sure does make me fart.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 9:01 am to
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frick them, frick Muhammad, and frick anyone who thinks otherwise.


Jesus Vols, tell us how you really feel

For the record, we had neighbors who were Pakistani Muslims. Their daughter and our daughter were BFFs. She and her parents smelled fine.

On the other hand, their mortgage was a 30 year fixed through Citi so maybe they weren't real Muslims.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 9:05 am to
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Me, too....but it sure does make me fart.


TMI
Posted by GrantTheFan
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:24 am to
This is his response to mortgages/refi's:

The mortgage is setup as a lease/rent to own, where a trust owned by the bank buys the home then transfers it to the customer when they have made all payments. The customer gains the ownership stake with each payemt, so to refinance a new 'trust' is set up to buy the home from the old trust while they new payment agreement is signed between the new trust and the customer.

I take it from this explanation that the equity is earned with each payment, like with a traditional mortgage. I think the big difference is that it's a straight line, as opposed to a traditional where early in the loan it's more interest and as it amortizes down it's more principal.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126929 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:29 am to
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where a trust owned by the bank buys the home then transfers it to the customer when they have made all payments. The customer gains the ownership stake with each payemt, so to refinance a new 'trust' is set up to buy the home from the old trust while they new payment agreement is signed between the new trust and the customer.


I wouldn't trust that.....


:rimshot:


j/k, thanks for the info.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:35 am to
Thanks.

It still looks like in order to be competitive they must mark their "fees" to market interest rates.
So the "evil interest" still plays a role in their business model.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:44 am to
Thanks for the info, that's interesting.
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